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The article I'd read said he was the one who, in August when they formed this specific plan, had codenamed Osama "Geronimo". You can tell all you need to tell about a man's integrity and his character by how he treats/speaks about those who are different or less fortunate then they are. Unscripted, publicly he has no regard for those not as rich, or physically/mentally "perfect" as himself--and that is unacceptable for the President of the United States, the leader of the Free World. That's all I need to know about him-he is NOT looking out for the best interest of the average American, only his America.

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Originally Posted by Cari LuvThrash:
he is NOT looking out for the best interest of the average American, only his America.

Word, I agree.

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Originally Posted by Cari LuvThrash:
The article I'd read said he was the one who, in August when they formed this specific plan, had codenamed Osama "Geronimo". You can tell all you need to tell about a man's integrity and his character by how he treats/speaks about those who are different or less fortunate then they are. Unscripted, publicly he has no regard for those not as rich, or physically/mentally "perfect" as himself--and that is unacceptable for the President of the United States, the leader of the Free World. That's all I need to know about him-he is NOT looking out for the best interest of the average American, only his America.

Still on books held by  the US Govt. he was  an enemy to the state, what can I say, forgiving him out of deferrence to his status as a hero is precedent for bin Laden's eventul reprieve under pressure from a minority of his supporters

As for Obama's opinions of people off-mic,  Im not familiar with any recordings, but Im sure he has some opinions of people, dont we all, although we dont let that interfere with our jobs when that job is to serve people, and Obama shows no apparant mania that would cause him to be one  to cross that line.

Pretty sure his opinions of other people are still the same as when surrounded by his peers at te $12000 annual income range, but  the people surrounding him changed.

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though even if they show pic we will never know because could be fake

but here let me stick it to Obama like he is sticking it to the USA, oh you gona love me Obama for this rumor i'm starting

what if...Osama just died from natural causes like the diabetes he had, and Obama just made staged all this crap up to take credit, yeah Obama, i'm on to you, how ya like me now?

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I called it the second they announced it. If he wasn't already dead, they didn't kill him. The timing was way too convenient, their "evidence" was way too shoddy.

Originally Posted by Rick  Myers:
what if...Osama just died from natural causes like the diabetes he had, and Obama just made staged all this crap up to take credit, yeah Obama, i'm on to you, how ya like me now?

This is the general consensus I've been reading. Kidney disease or whatever else he supposedly had got him a few years back.

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jermyn:
I called it the second they announced it. If he wasn't already dead, they didn't kill him. The timing was way too convenient, their "evidence" was way too shoddy.

Originally Posted by Rick  Myers:
what if...Osama just died from natural causes like the diabetes he had, and Obama just made staged all this crap up to take credit, yeah Obama, i'm on to you, how ya like me now?

This is the general consensus I've been reading. Kidney disease or whatever else he supposedly had got him a few years back.

I dunno.. if it was staged then I can't see why it was done that day of May 1st. I mean, wouldn't they have staged it perhaps a year ago when the pres' approval rating was at an all time low due to the BP oil spill crisis or whatever? I'm not denying the possibility of it being staged either for I'm well aware of how they operate yet all I am saying is, maybe for once our military did something right.

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Originally Posted by Rick  Myers:

but here let me stick it to Obama like he is sticking it to the USA, oh you gona love me Obama for this rumor i'm starting

what if...Osama just died from natural causes like the diabetes he had, and Obama just made staged all this crap up to take credit, yeah Obama, i'm on to you, how ya like me now?

Uh, that's not an original idea. Lots of people suspect that may be the actual case.

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All I know is that video that's out, the one that shows Osama wrapped in a blanket watching tv, is total bs. That is not Osama sitting in front of the damn tv with a remote, flipping through channels and ****.

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Originally Posted by Thomas Jermyn:
I called it the second they announced it. If he wasn't already dead, they didn't kill him. The timing was way too convenient, their "evidence" was way too shoddy.

Originally Posted by Rick  Myers:
what if...Osama just died from natural causes like the diabetes he had, and Obama just made staged all this crap up to take credit, yeah Obama, i'm on to you, how ya like me now?

This is the general consensus I've been reading. Kidney disease or whatever else he supposedly had got him a few years back.

If we could only convince Pakistan (and Al Quaida) that Osama bin Laden, the most wanted fugitive in the world, was found and killed while living in a $1.5 M home compound as close as 750 yards from their West Point, then Pakistan (and Al Quaida) can convince the rest of the world...Almost,  amIrite guys?



Although,  niether speculation on his health consider for the lack of a dyalisis machine in his home suggesting  that he either didnt have a condition severe enough,  or at all,  to require one, or that he had acces to one off premesis, and further intelligence is ongoing which possibly could also further the  implication of  Pakistani involvement.


Its also  been reported that a U.S. military traing team was actually as close to bin Laden as that base 750 yards away in 2008 while Bush was in his last months.

If youre serious Im not above pullingoutt Occam's razor at some point, how far do you want to go with this?

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Originally Posted by Danny Aston:

Originally Posted by Cari LuvThrash:
The article I'd read said he was the one who, in August when they formed this specific plan, had codenamed Osama "Geronimo". You can tell all you need to tell about a man's integrity and his character by how he treats/speaks about those who are different or less fortunate then they are. Unscripted, publicly he has no regard for those not as rich, or physically/mentally "perfect" as himself--and that is unacceptable for the President of the United States, the leader of the Free World. That's all I need to know about him-he is NOT looking out for the best interest of the average American, only his America.

Still on books held by  the US Govt. he was  an enemy to the state, what can I say, forgiving him out of deferrence to his status as a hero is precedent for bin Laden's eventul reprieve under pressure from a minority of his supporters

As for Obama's opinions of people off-mic,  Im not familiar with any recordings, but Im sure he has some opinions of people, dont we all, although we dont let that interfere with our jobs when that job is to serve people, and Obama shows no apparant mania that would cause him to be one  to cross that line.

Pretty sure his opinions of other people are still the same as when surrounded by his peers at te $12000 annual income range, but  the people surrounding him changed.

The one that pisses me off to this day was listening to him make fun of Special Olympic bowlers with what his supporters call his "off the cuff remarks" (after all, those are the most insidious kind. They show a complete callousness and ease of prejudice towards those being spoken about). Considering at the time I was a Special Olympic bowling coach and my team was gearing up for their State Tournaments it was pretty devastating to them. And let me tell youother kids sure as hell let them know what the President thought of them and their accomplisments too. You have more respect than that for ALL Americans when you are the President, and especially when you are speaking publicly.

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Originally Posted by Cari LuvThrash:

Originally Posted by Danny Aston:

Originally Posted by Cari LuvThrash:
The article I'd read said he was the one who, in August when they formed this specific plan, had codenamed Osama "Geronimo". You can tell all you need to tell about a man's integrity and his character by how he treats/speaks about those who are different or less fortunate then they are. Unscripted, publicly he has no regard for those not as rich, or physically/mentally "perfect" as himself--and that is unacceptable for the President of the United States, the leader of the Free World. That's all I need to know about him-he is NOT looking out for the best interest of the average American, only his America.

Still on books held by  the US Govt. he was  an enemy to the state, what can I say, forgiving him out of deferrence to his status as a hero is precedent for bin Laden's eventul reprieve under pressure from a minority of his supporters

As for Obama's opinions of people off-mic,  Im not familiar with any recordings, but Im sure he has some opinions of people, dont we all, although we dont let that interfere with our jobs when that job is to serve people, and Obama shows no apparant mania that would cause him to be one  to cross that line.

Pretty sure his opinions of other people are still the same as when surrounded by his peers at te $12000 annual income range, but  the people surrounding him changed.

The one that pisses me off to this day was listening to him make fun of Special Olympic bowlers with what his supporters call his "off the cuff remarks" (after all, those are the most insidious kind. They show a complete callousness and ease of prejudice towards those being spoken about). Considering at the time I was a Special Olympic bowling coach and my team was gearing up for their State Tournaments it was pretty devastating to them. And let me tell youother kids sure as hell let them know what the President thought of them and their accomplisments too. You have more respect than that for ALL Americans when you are the President, and especially when you are speaking publicly.

I can certainly understand your displeasure, Cari for I too tend to be ultra sensitive when it comes to people's insensitivity towards the mentally/physically handicapped. I can't lie, it often enrages me whenever I hear certain stand up comedians base part of their act on making fun of so called "retards" and/or cripples, etc. , etc. when it's bad enough that people who are unfortunately born that way did NOT ask to be born as such. Furthermore, it's even more disturbing to hear people say **** like, "the handicapped are nothing more than burdens to tax payers, etc." when in fact, they too could have been born with a defect as well but evidently they don't realize how fortunate they are to be more capable than some people are.

So I do feel your anger, Cari and you're not alone there.. yet if it's any consolation to you at all I would keep in mind that despite any physical or mental limitations, a lot of handicapped people are probably better people overall just because unlike the rest of us, it doesn't take much for them to be happy and appreciate the small things in life. And you have to admire that for in this day and age, there's so much more for us so called 'normal' people to have to worry about on a daily basis.. hope that helps

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Making fun of the handicapped and mentally retarded is lame.