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Originally Posted by Keith Larson:
... And I have difficulties placing value on symbols.

Interesting ...
I see nothing wrong with a couple deciding they want to get married and using an outward symbol of their love by wearing wedding rings so long as that is what each other needs.   You gotta know what your significant other needs ... and fulfill that.  If it's not important to both of you, that's what is cool for you as a couple.

I have to admit I had a eye-popping rock with my last marriage ... and believe me I earned it !  He had a nice band with diamonds but rarely wore it because "it was dangerous as he was a contractor / builder and his hands were always into stuff."   Well, as it turns out  ... yes they were !

Anyway ... know what it takes to make your mate happy ... perfect it and do it ... even if it involves some symbolism ... who's that hurting ?

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If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

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No, it doesn't

I'm a firm believer that people should do what's best and right for them as a couple ...including name change / or not.  

I used to think it odd that women would not change their name to that of their husband.  Now, I totally understand it.  IF I ever get married again, I believe I'm sticking with this name for life ... and not changing it again.

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Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:
If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

Only if he's going to have the babies too.  

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Originally Posted by Tiramisu Sue:

Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:
If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

Only if he's going to have the babies too.  

Touche'

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Originally Posted by Tiramisu Sue:

Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:
If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

Only if he's going to have the babies too.  

Love it!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jann Morrison Kostka:

Originally Posted by Tiramisu Sue:

Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:
If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

Only if he's going to have the babies too.

Love it!!!!

I dunno, I think only Ahhnold can pull that off. But, gosh, men are bishy enough already, can you really see them pregnant on top of that?

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Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:

Originally Posted by Jann Morrison Kostka:

Originally Posted by Tiramisu Sue:

Originally Posted by Shawn Ishness:
If a woman does propose to her boyfriend, then does this raise the question of whether or not he's to take her last name in marriage?

Only if he's going to have the babies too.

Love it!!!!

I dunno, I think only Ahhnold can pull that off. But, gosh, men are bishy enough already, can you really see them pregnant on top of that?

LOL...seriously though, didn't the whole marriage and taking-the-mans-last-name thing come about to determine the lineage and heredity and all that?  You always knew who the mother was since she was growing the babies, but, pre-dna testing, the wife and kids used the daddy's last name to keep everything straight and less confusing. One family name, one name to put on the mailbox....and as long as the kids didn't end up looking like the milk man...not a bad system.

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Originally Posted by Tiramisu Sue:
LOL...seriously though, didn't the whole marriage and taking-the-mans-last-name thing come about to determine the lineage and heredity and all that?  You always knew who the mother was since she was growing the babies, but, pre-dna testing, the wife and kids used the daddy's last name to keep everything straight and less confusing. One family name, one name to put on the mailbox....and as long as the kids didn't end up looking like the milk man...not a bad system.

I suppose I agree with the practicality of it. In my mind, though, I was goofin with gender equalities and how sometimes gender equalities are only explored conveniently. But regarding names, I only feel an emotional connection with my first name, but it's not used definitively. And heritage seems have to evolved with little to no value to me, so if my last name were to be changed, other than relearning my signature, it'd feel insignificant to me.

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You know ...

I've been following this topic and have been deeply pondering the question against the examples of my own life.  And I now have come to the conclusion that women should do the proposing because, when I propose something to a lady, most of the time I get slapped.

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Originally Posted by Scott Terry:

You know ...

I've been following this topic and have been deeply pondering the question against the examples of my own life.  And I now have come to the conclusion that women should do the proposing because, when I propose something to a lady, most of the time I get slapped.

Yea, but such proposals might look like: 1) take out the trash, 2) fix this thingy, 3) you dry and I'll wash, or rather you just do both while I call my friend to discuss today's soaps, and 4) I want to discuss something about your mother,,, all during the ballgame you've been anxiously waiting to watch.