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 OFFLINE | i believe in ID and evolution as the mechanism through which life exists. first, i have to stress again that the theory regarding humans isn't that we came from monkeys or any other species of currently living primates, but that we and some currently living primates share an ancient ancestor.
dennis, i don't know how some people can say they believe in intra-species evolution, but then can't take that a step further to understand how this is the process by which we derive species. the greater the change, the longer the amount of time. i don't think we can really look at species as set in stone. what we see as a species of plant or animal, is really just a snapshot of a particular point in time, of the continual process of change that occurs from generation to generation. there's really no buffers that stops this change. it's not as if god says, "whoa, your'e starting to change too much into another species, so no more genetic inputs to your offspring." it would either be that a species can't change enough to keep pace with environmental factors and the evolution of other species around it (such as predators), or it would be a successful design. some species are designed so well (or have evolved so well), that they don't change for millions of years. like crocodiles and alligators. yet even so, these species didn't come from no where. there wasn't just all of a sudden crocodiles. they came from other crocodillian ancestors that looked very similar to them.
i believe in the godly simulation. that is, the entirety of what we call the physical realm (our universe) is just a massively complex simulation (or at least the approximation of a simulation) that began with the big bang - god breathing existence into the universe. and the scientific processes that we know of, are the methods by which everything unfolded after that point.
through gravitation, stars are born from the matter left over from extinct stars. the greater the size, the greater the gravity, the more stuff gets pulled in. the stars themselves are made of the lighter materials, such as helium and hydrogen. the heavier stuff begins to circulate around the gravity created by the new star in great rings, similar to those of saturn. and through gravity again, these bits begin to coalesce into larger and larger pieces, which gives them more and more gravity, to suck up even more bits of material. eventually, these pieces form into planets. the reason this process repeats itself (as we now know of other planets revolving around other stars) is because this is the natural reaction of matter to the laws of physics. in other words, the same processes occur all across the universe, because they are all subject to the same laws of physics.
so in other words, the mightiest of stars and planets are formed from the tiniest bits of dust and debris.
similarly, i believe this is the same manner in which life springs up, all across the universe, because evolution is the law of physics for life. all life, over extreme periods of times - time scales we can't fully grasp in our heads - arises from the simplest of creatures. if conditions are right, there will be life. if conditions are right amino acids will coalesce into forming simple proteins. these proteins then form into what we would call single cell organisms, which themselves are fairly complex (if you remember biology class). these single celled organisms become multi-celled polyps and from there, it's just a matter of complexity and different arrangements of organisation. it's really the same way humans are created unto this world. we start from a single cell, and this cell multiplies, and those cells multiply and so on.
really, to my eyes, the ingeniousness of everything is how such complexity arises from such simplicity. to my thinking, this is the hand of god. |
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