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skip to 4:30. you need to watch this and learn about agenda 21.

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Don't let Glenn Back, an individual who made himself famous by spouting off lies and extreme exaggerations to scare the ultra-conservatives, do your thinking for you.  Here is a link to the actual document off the UN's website.  Read and enjoy!

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/index.shtml

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As for the opening of that video, god forbid out president spends  four hours in a US territory that will probably someday become a state.  Beck seems to think Obama's time would be better spend sitting in the Whitehouse lamenting about a drop in the stock market triggered by events in Greece (something completely out of Obama's control) in stead of going out and interacting with a group of traditionally neglected US citizens!

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Dod.  Lol!  You should know better than to post Glenn Beck videos for these guys.  

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You know, I've never watched a full Glenn Beck clip before, I've just seen snippets and read quotes and transcripts. This should be entertaining....

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hmm, comments as I watch:

"the Leftist utopia that is europe" - don't think I'll bother with this one, is no point in this group....

"the communists are out rioting in the street again" - along with pretty much everyone else in greece.

"the communist labour movement" - am guessing the words "labour movement" and "communist" are pretty much interchangeable in Beck's book.

Ah here we go, Soros, should have known he'd get mentioned. Fair point though on him sticking his oar in just before things go ****-up - but him and how many economists are saying that? Pretty much everyone over here outside of the ppl who are actually making the decisions think they're just going to make things worse by dicking around with bailouts which just delay the day they have to make the hard decisions.

The bit about the "taking care of each other as god and the founders intended us to" is a nice homely touch, especially as just before it said he's off to build his own ark, or "screw you guys, I'm looking out for myself" :-P

His sarcasm is getting very annoying - and before you say it, I think it's annoying on Jonathan Stewart as well. Using sarcasm occasionally to reinforce a point: effective, beating every 3rd sentence with the sarky stick:  loses the impact and gets annoying.

...and this is all before the bit you wanted us to watch.. :-P

Ah yeah, here we go, New World Order, should have guessed....

Is nice the way he makes "guaranteed housing" to be a bad thing, and is a bit of a reach the way he makes "the provision of shelter for all" into sounding like the 1st world is going to build a house for everyone on the 3rd world and then give them it for free.

"centralised control over all of human life on planet earth" - the proof of this one is going to be a doozy (it had better be)!

"you might remember him from Crime Inc - remember that?" - No, refresh my memory please. Maybe you have to be a regular viewer to get this....

"if you want to have a baby you have to have a licence" - proof?  A direct quote, or is he paraphrasing?

"the only way to save the world at this point is to have the industrial civilization collapse" - again, proof?

"Why is Glenn Beck talking about Agenda 21?" - given that the earliest thing he's talked about was 2002, am wondering the same thing, isn't really "breaking news"....

"Any time your town is coming up with... anything environmental....the good chance is that they usual suspects are involved, just behind the curtain" - so people aren't smart enough to come up with ideas themselves, there's always some evil genius behind the scenes?

Why does he sound like the Count from Sesame St when he's talking about "spooky guy"?

"Remember: green is red" - oh come **** on, so everyone on the planet who is worried about the environment is a commie now?

"Solving global warming means investing in new infrastructure, building strong communities, and creating good jobs" - obviously all bad things. Ah, hang on a sec, did he not say "Best thing we can do is link arms together, neighbor to neighbor, reach out to our houses of worship and our community centers, and take care of each other" earlier?

Oh, here's the end of the clip, maybe I was being a bit optimistic about the whole "proof" thing.

So, comments: His proof of a giant global conspiracy is what, one quote from a document that "you have to dig pretty deep into" to see how scary it is, and then listing a bunch of people who know each other?  I think that if I want to hear about "The New World Order(tm)", I'll stick to listening to Alex Jones, at least he doesn't sound like Winnie the Pooh just discovered how to use sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
who made himself famous by spouting off lies and extreme exaggerations to scare the ultra-conservatives

firstly, i don't let anyone do my thinking for me. when i watch beck - which i swear is MAYBE once a week - i use the information that he brings to light to look into things.

and secondly, what are some of the documented instances where he hasn't been factual. mind you, his opinions regarding what he brings to light are separate from the information itself.

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i was going to post a new thread for this, but i think it's fitting that i put it in here. guys - are we on the right track? are we at a period of history that is prosperous and plentiful, or are we currently in a state of decline? globally, we are facing serious crises, and the likelihood of shortages in our way of life. energy, food, economics; in every way we are bankrupt. more and more people are warning us against this, but the governments of the world.

this is an hour and a half long video of a history channel program called prophets of doom. i know it's long, but it is an excellent program that details all of this.

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
when i watch beck - which i swear is MAYBE once a week

But you could give up at any time, right? ;-p

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:

this is an hour and a half long video of a history channel program called prophets of doom. i know it's long, but it is an excellent program that details all of this.

Don't have time to watch this now (am downloading it now to watch on my iphone on the train home this evening), but is it anything like this?

http://www.businessinsider.com/jeremy-grantham-commodity-prices-2011-6

Found this the other day, just never got around to posting it....

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:


and secondly, what are some of the documented instances where he hasn't been factual. mind you, his opinions regarding what he brings to light are separate from the information itself.

Have fun:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements/

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Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:


http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements/

Don't worry, am sure these will be explained away as part of the "lamestream media" vendetta against anyone brave enough to speak out against the liberal consensus.... :-P

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Originally Posted by Kieran Colfer:

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:


http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/statements/

Don't worry, am sure these will be explained away as part of the "lamestream media" vendetta against anyone brave enough to speak out against the liberal consensus.... :-P

well, yeah, and this first one i investigated from on that sight is a prime example. the "lie" he told is explained here.

On his Fox News Channel program for Feb. 4, 2011, Glenn Beck wrapped up five days of frightening Egypt forecasts with this blunt assessment:

"We told you this week how if (President Hosni) Mubarak does step down, however, the Muslim Brotherhood would be the most likely group to seize power. They've openly stated they want to declare war on Israel and they would end the peace agreement with Israel and they would work towards instituting something we told you about, a caliphate."

That’s a lot to unpack. We decided to check Beck’s claim that the Brotherhood has "openly stated they want to declare war on Israel," because so much of the debate in the United States revolves around the Muslim Brotherhood's intentions toward the main U.S. ally in the region.

Beck neglected to name a source in that Feb. 4 broadcast, so we took a look through the rest of his transcripts for the week. Sure enough, three days earlier he informed viewers that "a top official in the Muslim Brotherhood has just said that … ‘The people should be prepared for war against Israel.’"

Who was that top official? Beck’s website pointed to a Feb. 1, 2011, item in the Jerusalem Post that had a "leading member" of the Brotherhood, Muhammad Ghannem, declaring that "the people should be prepared for war against Israel." The next day a Washington Times editorial picked up the quote, saying it "succinctly summed up" the Muslim Brotherhood's foreign policy. Then Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., repeated the fiery words in a floor speech.

The Jerusalem Post piece cited an interview Ghannem gave to an Arabic-language Iranian network, Al-Alam. With deft use of Google Translate we were able to verify that Ghannem was quoted saying something along those lines in a Jan. 31, 2011, piece on Al-Alam’s website. The key question then becomes whether Ghannem can speak for the sprawling Muslim Brotherhood.

"I have never heard of him," said Dr. Jason Brownlee, an associate professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas and a scholar with the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. progressive "It’s a big organization, and there may be people who say things like that, but that doesn’t mean it’s policy. It doesn’t jibe with my experience visiting Egypt and doing research on the Muslim Brotherhood for over a decade." funny, i've done research on them for a few hours and saw a group founded out of the hate and anti-semitism of the nazi era, with no shortage terrorist ties and actions. oh but that was so last week. they're peaceful now, and it's just SUCH A BIG TENT that maybe only half of them hate israel and the west; which is why they're blowing up churches and killing coptic christians left and right! yeah, they're so moderate now. just look at what the people's movement has given us. but it's doubtful that only half hate us, given the fact that they speak and think about jews as if they were vermin, with statements nearly identical those coming from the nazis. indeed, egypt even has it's own nazi party now. i guess all these posts i make about all this goes in one ear and out the other.

Three other experts on the Muslim Brotherhood all agreed. "The MB is a massive organization with many different ideological trends within it," (um, islamic ideology, hello? explained Dr. Joshua Stacher, a political scientist at Kent State. "I have never heard anyone on or off the record say they ‘wish to declare war on Israel.’ no, just wipe out the jews is all " None were familiar with Ghannem, who we confirmed is not among the the Brotherhood’s policy elite, the 16-member Guidance Bureau.

Still, there’s no doubt that the Brotherhood officially condemns Israel, its neighbor across the Sinai Peninsula. According to a report on the group’s own website, a controversy erupted in 2007 when spokesman Essam El-Erian was quoted in London-based paper Al-Hayat saying that the Brotherhood would recognize Israel if it came to power.

In response, then-Supreme Guide Mohamed Mahdy Akef clarified that "the Brotherhood does not and will never recognize Israel. ... Israel does not exist in the Brotherhood’s dictionary. nuff said. like how they slip that in at the end of the freaking article

so yeah, the muslim brotherhood is "such a BROAD and ideologically diverse bunch of peace loving revoluitionaries, just like george washington and thomas jefferson."  

anyway, so this "lie" is proven not to be so much of a lie by the very website that keeps track of them. they put the quote and the headline up on the main page, but you have to dig and read a little to see just how he "lied."

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anyway, i think the point is, it's always good to be prepared. we can't look back on the events of history as if there's a degree of separation, and won't happen again. hell, even in the case of natural disasters, it's always good to stock away a little nest egg of food, water, heat source, batteries, ammunition, medical supplies, fuel, and the like. it's also important that we mentally prepare ourselves, and really think about all the scenarios that might play out, in which real help might be a long way away.

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and that's not crazy talk, it's common sense.