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01/08/2012 4:31 pm

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I must ask. Does anyone here play this game without using silk? If so, do you find this game both fun and fair to you?

Without using silk, obtaining all the nice things you want in the game becomes exceedingly difficult.
There are a number of things that could help this without doing away with the cash shop and silk system, such as removing the drop limit. The hatching rate for certain eggs is also especially brutal, I've just recently gone through 3 Impmon eggs, and hundreds of devil data without succeeding in hatching any of them. (they all broke before it could even get to 3/5) Experiences like this, frankly, make a lot of the effort I put into this game feel like a waste of time, when I have so much else I could be doing.

I do find many elements of this game fun, and will try to continue to play for awhile, but I have to admit the lack of fairness in the game especially toward non-silk-using players like myself does put a damper on my experience.

And why don't I use silk, you ask? No reason in particular, but... I really want to try and enjoy this game without having to resort to that.
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01/08/2012 7:23 pm

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The hatching rate wouldn't be so bad if we had no drop limit. I rarely see anyone selling any other eggs other than DemiMeramon, Veemon, and Agumon. If they do sell them, they overprice the hell out of them.

With the drop limit gone, anyone at any level can farm any egg, we'd get more eggs into the game, and players will have more chances at hatching them. The thing players may not like is the price for eggs will go down, possibly even cash eggs.


But at this rate, we will never get the drop limit gone. The GMs are stating it's in place to battle bots, and removing it will make them worse. Honestly, severely limiting our gameplay to try and fight botters is not a very smart idea. There are many other ways of fighting botters.... starting to think that was just some cover excuse...
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01/08/2012 10:27 pm

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Hi Anthony! I agree with your comment and also having a hard time getting the newest digimons without having to pay silk.(With my personal character atleast). But I also think that the game is fun just like that. You see, the game is more challenging if we don't usually get what we want. What do you think?
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01/09/2012 12:27 am

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I have to agree that the drop limit needs to go. If this was just a one character mmorpg like world of warcraft or perfect world then a drop limit would be fine. But because your levelling more than one character the game just becomes harder and harder. It's difficult enough getting eggs without having something that limits them. Also this would help the game economy get better I think. Prices will go down which means players will be able to afford items that only the insanely rich people can afford now.
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01/09/2012 5:22 am

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Having silk is good but is not always too brilliant...I have paid for 11 eggs that were 3/5. Waste of money and pretty unfair in my opinion...However I have been lucky with hatching: Hawkmon & Veemon 4/5s...Taken a while but it was worth it and both taken roughly less then ten eggs for a success.
I hope this motivates you and I wish you best of luck hatching Impmon.
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01/09/2012 5:39 am

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Well, I wanted to be a F2P player, just buying silk for New digmons, or other thing but not every time.

The answer is, there's just one problem for being a F2P, space. For level up, most often in high levels, or in events, you will NEED space in Inventory, Warehouse and Archive
We could be F2P a little while ago but some greedy guys overpriced cash itens, so it's impossible now.
Without the Drop cap we could buy those overpriced itens with no problem, but we have a drop cap, so farming rare itens and egg shells is a bit more difficult.

And use the excuse of preventing botters with the drop cap is a bit nonsense. As they said above, limiting a game because of bots is ridiculous, bots are everywhere, in every game, and making a game more difficult/limited is bad for honest players. It's unfair to say "We won't remove drop cap because the number of bots will get higher". Unfair to all honest players. If a game need to get rid of bots, mostly the game will need to be shutdown, or have a really good system to prevent these bots.
We have bots in DarkTower, farming in Western Village, selling "silk" on Dats Center, and one of them is the "top tamer". It will be hard to get rid of them, if it's not impossible, and having a drop cap is NOT a way to stop them


@Casey
The game can be more difficult without having the silk help, but in sometimes, you will want you favorite digimon, Evos, and you will need more space, or the game really gets a little boring. We could have a new digimon, space and evos without silk, but now the marketers gone crazy and are selling cash itens for a ridiculous price, so now the only way to have fundamental things is buying silk.
And really, we could have Boss Card in GDMO, huh? So we could drop Evoluters, and everyone need them. They have this system on KDMO, and is cool to kill those bosses too ;P
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01/09/2012 6:05 am

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The drop limit is not added in KDMO, I wonder why? Perhaps it is because KDMO uses/has a better system to tackle the bots. I would suggest the devs and Game Masters of GDMO to ask KDMO for some support in this issue, I'm sure they'll be willing to help.

Joymax is based in Korea, so a meeting of game management would be quite easy. I highly recommend doing this method in order to remove the drop cap and for exchange of ideas. I don't even know why the drop limit is implanted upon. There  is a lot of Digimon to farm for a reason, not just for training... Surely GDMO can sort this out, hopefully.

I will continue this until it gets removed. =D
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01/09/2012 6:38 am

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Silk or no silk...this game need to be more MMORPG than now...but the community is still fun as you will team up with "anyone" (not everyone...some infamous tamers) for the sake of levelling up.

I have 2 accounts...1 silk 1 no silk. I still manage to get a Renamon 5/5 and 22 evos from Thanksgiving for my non-Silk account and max inventory...now working to max its Storage.

Due to the fact that I bought + hatch around 10+ digimons and need to work, date and sleep...i kinda have too many little ones to train. Now all i need is to get all these guys to 70++ for the next few months:-

Partner x 2
Renamon x 2 (Thanksgiving 5/5 + Silk 4/5 lv46)
Gabumon (Merc 4/5 lv1)
Veemon (Buy 1.5Tlv50)
PawnChessmon White (4/5 - scanned Silk Agumon 3/5 lv46)
Pawnchessmon Black (4/5 - scanned Silk Agumon 3/5 lv59)
Agumon Classic (Buy 2T 4/5 lv38)
Keramon (Silk 4/5 lv49)
Impmon (Thanksgiving 5/5 lv46)
Gotsumon (Merc 4/5 lv1)
Elecmon (Merc 4/5 lv30+)
Gomamon Mystery Egg x 2 (X'mas Blue box)
Mystery Reinforced merc Egg x 2 (X'mas Red box)
Kamemon...still lack 70 digicores (Scanning all Merc eggs)

The only place i will use Silks will only be Clons, Archive and possibly BM items and some evos

p.s who need fav digimons at 5/5 to show off mega within 24hrs after the update...limited/rare types is key to showing off
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Impmon Dokunemon Demimeramon

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01/09/2012 6:59 am

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Originally Posted by Shyangyuan Koh:
Silk or no silk...this game need to be more MMORPG than now...but the community is still fun as you will team up with "anyone" (not everyone...some infamous tamers) for the sake of levelling up.

I have 2 accounts...1 silk 1 no silk. I still manage to get a Renamon 5/5 and 22 evos from Thanksgiving for my non-Silk account and max inventory...now working to max its Storage.

Due to the fact that I bought + hatch around 10+ digimons and need to work, date and sleep...i kinda have too many little ones to train. Now all i need is to get all these guys to 70++ for the next few months:-

Partner x 2
Renamon x 2 (Thanksgiving 5/5 + Silk 4/5 lv46)
Gabumon (Merc 4/5 lv1)
Veemon (Buy 1.5Tlv50)
PawnChessmon White (4/5 - scanned Silk Agumon 3/5 lv46)
Pawnchessmon Black (4/5 - scanned Silk Agumon 3/5 lv59)
Agumon Classic (Buy 2T 4/5 lv38)
Keramon (Silk 4/5 lv49)
Impmon (Thanksgiving 5/5 lv46)
Gotsumon (Merc 4/5 lv1)
Elecmon (Merc 4/5 lv30+)
Gomamon Mystery Egg x 2 (X'mas Blue box)
Mystery Reinforced merc Egg x 2 (X'mas Red box)
Kamemon...still lack 70 digicores (Scanning all Merc eggs)

The only place i will use Silks will only be Clons, Archive and possibly BM items and some evos

p.s who need fav digimons at 5/5 to show off mega within 24hrs after the update...limited/rare types is key to showing off



in the Thanksgiving event, the prices were fine. So it were really easy to have full invs/storage in that time
Evos every day was a great event, and we always have reinforced eggs event, and this is fine too

But we don't survive with only few digimon, when we play this game for real.
We want to buy with silk or with merchants, our favorite digimons

Hatch for me was never difficult, but when we want a monodramon, renamon, or other low level digimon and our digimon are max/high level, is difficult, and to buy those overprices vitamins, supplies, itens from merchants, we need money, and the end of drop cap will help in this factor

And I can tell you, get out of your grinding spot just for going scan/buy supplies/put things in storage (which is full too), is really awful, and ingame prices are 60m+ EACH inventory now. All the cash item prices from merchants passed the ridiculous now, and we need to buy silk if we want evos, expansion, or new digimons

p.s: If it's one of my favorite digimon, I would have in the first days and max it to mega. I don't think it's showoff... So we need to wait to train new released digimons? I don't think so...
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01/09/2012 7:57 am

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Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer:

p.s: If it's one of my favorite digimon, I would have in the first days and max it to mega. I don't think it's showoff... So we need to wait to train new released digimons? I don't think so...



I am sorry to tell you, if you want to max it to mega in the first day. Then your consequences will be you can't farm anything below lvl 36 ^_^ congratulations on having a mega

Anyways, my point here is that people think that removing drop cap will make silk item cheaper in game is completely wrong.

1. If I see and knows that you now have 500M instead of 300M, I will raise the price of Evo to 400M instead of just 200M. Because I know you can afford it. And considering you want to level it to Mega in the first day, I will overcharge you just for that.

2. Unless Joymax lets Mode Select, Archive, etc to be part of an Event, there is no way your going to get those item unless you use silk. And considering how many cash seller ingame are still left(Because ingame currency simply are useless) the price of them is skyrocketing and they are few. So you will pay higher and higher prices for them. Something that just very hard be made simply by selling more eggs. sell 100 eggs just for 1 Archive, joy~  ^_^

3. So by selling eggs cheaper now, it will require you to farm more eggs than before just to sell. Let say you used to farm 10 eggs and sells for 20M each. Now you will need to farm 20 eggs to match the original value.

But I guess now that I think about it, it would be nice to remove the cap so that there are more egg slaves in the game. Then I can buy cheap eggs from these slaves that will be happy making little money and working 24/7 while I saves the time of farming and makes money in the real places where it counts.
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01/09/2012 8:39 am

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Originally Posted by Casey Ridge:
Hi Anthony! I agree with your comment and also having a hard time getting the newest digimons without having to pay silk.(With my personal character atleast). But I also think that the game is fun just like that. You see, the game is more challenging if we don't usually get what we want. What do you think?



things like a drop cap shouldn't be there. it makes the game TOO challenging and will lose a lot of players because of it. as more digimon come out, more people are going to have higher level digimon and need to buy silk (which some don't do) or buy off other players (who over price everything) to get a new digimon they could really want.

if you want to farm for a new digimon, you'd have to get another digimon low enough level to get that digimon if all your digimon are high leveled. so you'd have to buy off another player an egg and data to hatch a digimon you don't even want just so you can farm for a digimon you do want. you'd have to buy off another player because again...your digimon would be too high leveled to farm for an egg you don't even want but need it to obtain a digimon you do want. that will cost too much money to do so because multiple eggs, data and you'd also have to buy disks and w/e to level up a digimon you don't want just to farm for one you do want.

there's that scenerio but there's also the one where you can buy off players (who over price) so the cost would be 2x more. you'd have to buy multiple eggs..which face it..new digimon go for 20m or over so 5 eggs alone are 100m and it can take more eggs than that to hatch a digimon and then the data..which people seem to be brilliant and thing once a digimon that takes rock data comes out, they can over price the hell of the rock data.

so either way, it's too much of a hassle. i'm all for a game being difficult, and making me work for it but that's the point of farming and hatch rates, etc. because THAT makes you work for what you want. you shouldn't have to work extra hard (and spend more money) to obtain something. removing the drop cap allows people to farm for their own eggs, own data and it would still be hard work but it would at least be rewarding because you did it yourself, you didn't have to spend massive amounts of money and if you get a 4/5 or 5/5 that's because you WORKED for it. not because you had to work around all these issues jsut to get ONE digimon because of one silly drop cap.
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01/09/2012 9:06 am

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@ Howie
You worked for the ingame money...
So when you buy a 2T egg...you worked for it
If you have so many Megas that wont have egg drops...you should have more than 10T and ask youself this question...
How much you sell/peg price of your recent elecmon and Vmon eggs?
If you sell your elecmon egg at 4M-6M and Vmon at 10M then i'm would be more than happy to sell you evos at 150M each.

Originally Posted by Jack Fu:

Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer:

p.s: If it's one of my favorite digimon, I would have in the first days and max it to mega. I don't think it's showoff... So we need to wait to train new released digimons? I don't think so...



I am sorry to tell you, if you want to max it to mega in the first day. Then your consequences will be you can't farm anything below lvl 36 ^_^ congratulations on having a mega

Anyways, my point here is that people think that removing drop cap will make silk item cheaper in game is completely wrong.

1. If I see and knows that you now have 500M instead of 300M, I will raise the price of Evo to 400M instead of just 200M. Because I know you can afford it. And considering you want to level it to Mega in the first day, I will overcharge you just for that.

2. Unless Joymax lets Mode Select, Archive, etc to be part of an Event, there is no way your going to get those item unless you use silk. And considering how many cash seller ingame are still left(Because ingame currency simply are useless) the price of them is skyrocketing and they are few. So you will pay higher and higher prices for them. Something that just very hard be made simply by selling more eggs. sell 100 eggs just for 1 Archive, joy~  ^_^

3. So by selling eggs cheaper now, it will require you to farm more eggs than before just to sell. Let say you used to farm 10 eggs and sells for 20M each. Now you will need to farm 20 eggs to match the original value.

But I guess now that I think about it, it would be nice to remove the cap so that there are more egg slaves in the game. Then I can buy cheap eggs from these slaves that will be happy making little money and working 24/7 while I saves the time of farming and makes money in the real places where it counts.



For the 1st time...i agree with you. The price ain't going down but will up even more.
Mode Selector ain't going to be in any event...its 500M for ride wing. Take it or walk on foot.
Archive on the other hand, if get into an event will be a double edge sword. Players can get them for free (thru event) but if requirement is too high, the market price will went even higher. e.g

1 Evoluter = 50 digicores
1 Evoluter = 400M = 10 Silk or 1 Silk = 40M
1 Digicore = 20M
Exchange digicores to Evoluter = 20M x 50 = 1T
In this sense, 400M per Evo is considering cheap comparing to digicores Evo

Now 1 Archive = 27 Silks
if 1 Silks = 40M; 1 Archive will cost 1.08T in Evo Silk:Bits exchange rate
in this sense, 600M/Archive is seriously reasonable price...provided you can find merchant selling it.
On the other hand, if Archive available at 100 digicores or 135 digicores each...
current digicore price will direct translate to 2T or 2.7T and thus...Silk Merchants will start to peg the price of Archive to digicores; at this rate, 1.5T per archive will be considered as reasonable rate for merchants.

So...next time, guys...think before you make any request on the forum.
Nobody else is to blame for the current and future Silk market except for ourselves...
We're the one who requested so many digimons and updates...
"I want guilmon"
"Patamon please"
"GM Agumon partner sux...give us Agumon Classic"
"Renamon...i want Renamon"
"We had enough Renamon, give us Hagurumon"
"Vmon, Vmon, Vmon"
"Err..3 most wanted digimons? Salamon, Terriermon and Lopmon"

Sound familiar?
Now you got what you wished for...time to pay for it...
Think you can get a Behemoth which cost 48 Silks for 1T or lower now or the future?...think again.

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Partner: Agumon
Merc Lvl 4:
Agumon(Classic)Gotsumon Kamemon Keramon
Pawnchessmon B Pawnchessmon W Renamon Tentomon
Vmon(Veedramon)
Merc Lvl 5:
Impmon Dokunemon Demimeramon

Partner: Gaomon
Merc Lvl 4:
Dracomon Elecmon Kunemon
Merc Lvl 5:
Renamon
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