So a bit earlier AYA posted a short blip about Saturn stationing at 17 Libra.... Just curious as to how one experiencing a return may be affected.. I didn't notice until just now , but the chart I've linked has Porphyry houses. I usually use Placidus, though it really only changes Mars' house from the 8th to the 7th... Anyways, any insight would be greatly appreciated. Also, I use my cell to access FB and it's forums, so load time can be very laggy for me, but I'll do my best to respond to anything up here as quick as I can... Thanks in advance...

anyone?

Originally Posted by Graham McNallie:
anyone?

Hi Graham,
just some thoughts... maybe at least on one level...  that you are about to be a father for the second time (returning to the role in a full time manner... re-addressing your personal sense of yourself in this role, how it impacts your philosophies on commitment, etc )

Originally Posted by Graham McNallie:
anyone?

Originally Posted by Graham McNallie:
anyone?

I can only speak of my experience. I have Saturn in Leo Rx end of the 7th house opposite my Aquarius Moon and square 10th Uranus. I have Capricorn rising and Pisces Sun square 12th Neptune. I mentioned these aspects due to the changes Saturn's return implied. Also, it coincided with transit Pluto square 3rd house Sun/Mercury in late Pisces, and Neptune conjunct 1st Moon. I was nearing the end of nursing college and preparing to graduate and start my dream career as a RN and a become a successful, compenent single Mom of three.

The intial exact conjunction of Saturn to Saturn---My estranged Father was found dead in a motel the same day earlier my Son was diagnosed with a serious chronic disorder. I just lost all focus in my study. I was depressed, overhwhelmed, and just couldn't study my college material. I began slacking. I had a 4.0 GPA, and only needed to make at least 62 on my upcoming final to pass the semester. I just assumed I'd get at least 62 and passing was all I cared about at that point...too depressed to care otherwise. I experienced a major existential crisis. I got obsessed with religion/God, and put my nursing college books to the side figuring I had it in the bank already (many years of complete focus and dedication to that study) that failure was not in mind---Saturn was direct over natal Saturn.

Then, Saturn turned Rx (like my natal Saturn) just minutes from natal Saturn. This was the day of my finals. I walked out with a 61. I had made nothing but 90+ up until that day. I honestly didn't even think once that I was going to fail...Saturn had stationed RX and depressed, distraught, and so deseparate I cried on my hands and knees begging the Nursing president to let me graduate. I had no choice but to repeat the whole semester even the 3 other courses I passed, and then needed to come up with the $10k needed for the entire semester tuition as financial aid wont pay to repeat. For weeks I isolated myself, drank, and pondered death.  I then found acceptance... the last phase in the dying process. I began the semester and worked by ass off like never before!

The final pass of Saturn direct over Saturn was the week of my graduation, and it began to separate following days when I took and found out I passed Nursing Boards. A week later I began working as a RN. WHile I lost my literal  Father, the upfolding of the grief and all that it brings, lead to the death of my Father called 'God' too...complete transformation of my belief system. Again, Capricorn rising with 7th/8th Saturn Rx in Leo, 3rd house Pisces Sun/Mercury. I hope that makes sense!

Basically, the Rx station part of Saturn's return seemed to reveal the results of my choices/reactions to what the previous direct Saturn return revealed, and the final pass revealed the more refined and strengthened results of all that I had been patiently working very hard on for many years prior. The Rx period of my Saturn return was extremely tough, but I have a jacked up and difficult Saturn to begin with.  


As far as the chart above, just on first quick glance I can't help but to look at Neptune just because it's been very active in the chart by transit, and now here comes Pluto to oppose Mars. What was apparent when Saturn intially returned? Saturn rules your 11th...