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First for all, hi everyone. I'm back here since the "X-mas/New Year/500% Event Storm" passed, so I can read the comments with calm and post again. Well I tried to post in my last topic, since it talk about it, but for some strange reason the reply button didn’t work, so I'm obliged to make another topic...  

If you didn't read it, you can access it by this link: http://apps.facebook.com/fbulletin/discussion_cash_itens_prices_-22975.html


In the last days, I talked with many people in both sides: sellers ans costumers, and finally found nice sellers to talk about the acctual cash itens prices. And at last found the real culprit about this: Digiclon D and C.

Before then, 100 P.Silks/Silks = 1T. So the evos = 100M-120M, modes = 200-250M, DA = 300-400M, etc. But, with the digiclon release, they forced the price go up to 100 P.Silk/Silk = 3T. "How this happened?" you probably ask. I'll use a example:

With 100 P.Silks, you can have 9 evos. 9 evos = 900M-1,080T.

But with 100 P.Silks, you can have 11 digiclon D packages. Each package have 20 clons. So 220 clons in total. Selling at the cheapest price in Leviamon, 15M each, you make 3,3T...

See the diference?

Yes, have greed (and rude) sellers who make want easy money selling with unfair prices before, but the overprice real reason is the diference with the profit that digiclon does with the rest of the itens. They are obliged to raise the price to have at last the same profit with they'll have selling clons.

"So we don't have any hope?"

Well, only two things can be a real solution to this situation:
- Force the sellers low their prices. (Hardest way.)
- Removing the the actual Drop Cap in GDMO.

In KDMO have this prices, but there you can farm anything at any level, giving to the newbies at last a chance to make the Ms that they need without complain about the prices or have the things that they want when they want. Even Evos are dropable in KDMO! And do you see the Digitalic complain about this? No and everyday they make the game more fair for everyone! And the people continues to buy cash for it.

Before any cash seller appear and "They can't remove the drop cap, it'll ruin the cash eggs selling!!", Gabumon is dropable since the game release and this didn't stoped his cash egg to be a Hot Item in the Cash Shop for weeks. And even now have people selling Gabus 4/5 or 5/5.

The thing is: let's unite for the removal of the Drop Cap cause! Without this thing, everybody will have a chance. The Drop Cap isn't stopping the bots anyway. Only a report system and more GMs per server will stop then!

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Totally agree

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I agree too.

While the drop cap removal will probably cause a flood on the egg/data market, it also means that everyone can farm out the digimon they want (if it drops and they are at/above its level). As people will make less money with eggs (since there will be many on the market) they also won't be able to afford overpriced items, so sellers will have to lower their prices if they want to sell anything. So after a while everything's prices will start to drop to some extent and even egg farmers (who then can constantly farm certain digis of their choices regardless of the levels) will be able to make a living and will be able to afford things. Or at least this is what I expect/hope to happen, don't brick me for this vision.

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the only people who don't want the cap removed are people who buy eggs from cash shop and sell them, and people who sell merc eggs they get in general. the people with over 10T. they want it there so they can continue being greedy and getting in game money. over pricing everything because if it's in high demand, they can sell it for a high price because people will buy it for that ridiculous price. i always see people saying they buy low and sell high. that's greed, that's people wanting to make in game money and if they get rid of the cap limit, they can't do that anymore.

if the cap was removed, the people who sell merc eggs would still make a profit. why? because some people truly are lazy and don't wanna farm for their own crap. with how the digimon come out now (cash first, drop later) those sellers who buy silk can easily make a profit still because of this. they can sell those cash eggs because people would want them since they can't get them from drops yet. especially those 4/5 and 5/5 digimon because people want a guarantee of those kinds of digimon.

the cap limit just restricts the game in so many ways. removing it would do a lot of good but people think having it gone will cause bots to over flood the game. from what i hear..bots mostly want to just level up. how does having a cap limit have anything to do with botters? that, and if the cap limit was removed, the prices would go down in the shops and they would have no reason to bot for merc eggs, etc. because they wouldn't be able to over price and make tons of money as they can now.

i haven't even seen a bot in this game so i have no idea how people are complaining about these kinds of things. besides, once this game is out for a while longer..the hack prevention we have, that company will get to know the coding, scripting, whatever behind the bots and will know how they work, and know how to patch them faster.

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Agree

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Agreed

The only excuse Joymax use to keep the drop cap is prevent bots


"And use the excuse of preventing botters with the drop cap is a bit nonsense. As they said above, limiting a game because of bots is ridiculous, bots are everywhere, in every game, and making a game more difficult/limited is bad for honest players. It's unfair to say "We won't remove drop cap because the number of bots will get higher". Unfair to all honest players. If a game need to get rid of bots, mostly the game will need to be shutdown, or have a really good system to prevent these bots.
We have bots in DarkTower, farming in Western Village, selling "silk" on Dats Center, and one of them is the "top tamer". It will be hard to get rid of them, if it's not impossible, and having a drop cap is NOT a way to stop them"

/\ this is what i said in a recent topic, about the drop cap


Again, totally agree

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Originally Posted by Howie Felthersnatch:
the only people who don't want the cap removed are people who buy eggs from cash shop and sell them, and people who sell merc eggs they get in general. the people with over 10T. they want it there so they can continue being greedy and getting in game money. over pricing everything because if it's in high demand, they can sell it for a high price because people will buy it for that ridiculous price. i always see people saying they buy low and sell high. that's greed, that's people wanting to make in game money and if they get rid of the cap limit, they can't do that anymore.

if the cap was removed, the people who sell merc eggs would still make a profit. why? because some people truly are lazy and don't wanna farm for their own crap. with how the digimon come out now (cash first, drop later) those sellers who buy silk can easily make a profit still because of this. they can sell those cash eggs because people would want them since they can't get them from drops yet. especially those 4/5 and 5/5 digimon because people want a guarantee of those kinds of digimon.

the cap limit just restricts the game in so many ways. removing it would do a lot of good but people think having it gone will cause bots to over flood the game. from what i hear..bots mostly want to just level up. how does having a cap limit have anything to do with botters? that, and if the cap limit was removed, the prices would go down in the shops and they would have no reason to bot for merc eggs, etc. because they wouldn't be able to over price and make tons of money as they can now.

i haven't even seen a bot in this game so i have no idea how people are complaining about these kinds of things. besides, once this game is out for a while longer..the hack prevention we have, that company will get to know the coding, scripting, whatever behind the bots and will know how they work, and know how to patch them faster.

I am having a great laugh here really.

You don't want people to make money because you call them greedy. So removing the cap so people can't make money? And you have no intention of support joymax for this great game... ok... guess that is your fairness.

You should have a walk on Western Town just right at the digmon and impmon place(Most channels will have these cute bots). You should see a pair of 2 tamers one using a low level digimon and another using a high level one. They are in a party and the low level will attack first, then the high level one will attack after. The high level then picks up the drop.
This is how bots farm eggs. They want to level? Lols. no... they want to farm eggs

Besides if Joymax really are interested in killing bots, they can change to GG for prevention, which is a bad rootkit itself but works alot better than the current one. They can also hire more GMs that does day and night shifts on patrol.

But
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = lower price for most silk items. but ok... if you say so.
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = benefiting joymax besides having lower revenue which will force joymax to lower the hatching rate to match that of KDMO to compensate for the loss. Or worst case scenario release the never before gacha system into the game.

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@Jack

loss?? Do you think the drop cap removal will be a loss? LOL

It will be good to have money and buy the cash itens from sellers.
It will be good to have our Digimons 5/5 or 4/5
It will be good to farm egg shells and rare items for making money
It will be good for Joymax, so many players will play again, and the ones who are playing now will be more excited to play

I can almost guarantee that:
With PvP having a good system and like, freezing, paralyze status in some special attacks
And with a good way to farm and get our stuff/buy someone's

DMO can reach the Top MMORPG

And with DMO in the top, players who never saw this game will say "wow, this is a top MMORPG, it should be good, let's see how it is"
And then, more and more gamers will know the game and play it
How can't this be good for Joymax?

Making the game good for ALL players isn't a loss

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Originally Posted by Jack Fu:
But
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = lower price for most silk items. but ok... if you say so.
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = benefiting joymax besides having lower revenue which will force joymax to lower the hatching rate to match that of KDMO to compensate for the loss. Or worst case scenario release the never before gacha system into the game.

Man, in KDMO the hatch hate, % size at hatch, drop hate are all highter. And for you know, the Digitalic (company that make this game and make the patchs for Joymax), already promised a better way to farm since theyr players are complainig the acctual hates (yes, they are planing to make "less hard" - let's say the GDMO is the **** version of KDMO). And they sell a lot of things at Cash Shop and always have new things - and all this this will be released here.

And the Drop Cap need to be removed too because the Card Boss, they are summoned at random levels and you want at last a egg shell from a thing that is hard to kill. The only thing at first days will affect the removing is a bunch of people in places like Kunemons or Drimogemons, but soon normalize because isn't anyone who can farm for a long time without receiving exp or even have patience for it. And lol, this isn't the end of thinks like "Joymax I hae broken 30 agumons and wasted 500 dragon and still no hatch! That's unfair!" because even in KDMO, eggs explode easily.

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Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer:
@Jack

loss?? Do you think the drop cap removal will be a loss? LOL

It will be good to have money and buy the cash itens from sellers.
It will be good to have our Digimons 5/5 or 4/5
It will be good to farm egg shells and rare items for making money
It will be good for Joymax, so many players will play again, and the ones who are playing now will be more excited to play

I can almost guarantee that:
With PvP having a good system and like, freezing, paralyze status in some special attacks
And with a good way to farm and get our stuff/buy someone's

DMO can reach the Top MMORPG

And with DMO in the top, players who never saw this game will say "wow, this is a top MMORPG, it should be good, let's see how it is"
And then, more and more gamers will know the game and play it
How can't this be good for Joymax?

Making the game good for ALL players isn't a loss

But your looking it from a person who doesn't spend silk, who doesn't support joymax's perspective. What about the company?
How does pleasing someone that give 0 return to the company benefit the company?

There are many great company that follow what the player saids, and have their annual profit reduced by over half of what they could have made. While their publisher that are regard by all their player base as dirty greedy SoB. Yet walks off with millions in annual profits.

Pleasing the players just doesn't work. You have to please the "right" people that contribute to the game. That contribute to the successful profit of the company.

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Yea Digitalic promised alot of things, So where is my Kudamon they promised? How long was it now that it STILL IS NOT OUT YET?!?!
And did you see their company's interview? With their employee playing their iphone at work caught on photo?

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Originally Posted by Jack Fu:

Originally Posted by Howie Felthersnatch:
the only people who don't want the cap removed are people who buy eggs from cash shop and sell them, and people who sell merc eggs they get in general. the people with over 10T. they want it there so they can continue being greedy and getting in game money. over pricing everything because if it's in high demand, they can sell it for a high price because people will buy it for that ridiculous price. i always see people saying they buy low and sell high. that's greed, that's people wanting to make in game money and if they get rid of the cap limit, they can't do that anymore.

if the cap was removed, the people who sell merc eggs would still make a profit. why? because some people truly are lazy and don't wanna farm for their own crap. with how the digimon come out now (cash first, drop later) those sellers who buy silk can easily make a profit still because of this. they can sell those cash eggs because people would want them since they can't get them from drops yet. especially those 4/5 and 5/5 digimon because people want a guarantee of those kinds of digimon.

the cap limit just restricts the game in so many ways. removing it would do a lot of good but people think having it gone will cause bots to over flood the game. from what i hear..bots mostly want to just level up. how does having a cap limit have anything to do with botters? that, and if the cap limit was removed, the prices would go down in the shops and they would have no reason to bot for merc eggs, etc. because they wouldn't be able to over price and make tons of money as they can now.

i haven't even seen a bot in this game so i have no idea how people are complaining about these kinds of things. besides, once this game is out for a while longer..the hack prevention we have, that company will get to know the coding, scripting, whatever behind the bots and will know how they work, and know how to patch them faster.

I am having a great laugh here really.

You don't want people to make money because you call them greedy. So removing the cap so people can't make money? And you have no intention of support joymax for this great game... ok... guess that is your fairness.

You should have a walk on Western Town just right at the digmon and impmon place(Most channels will have these cute bots). You should see a pair of 2 tamers one using a low level digimon and another using a high level one. They are in a party and the low level will attack first, then the high level one will attack after. The high level then picks up the drop.
This is how bots farm eggs. They want to level? Lols. no... they want to farm eggs

Besides if Joymax really are interested in killing bots, they can change to GG for prevention, which is a bad rootkit itself but works alot better than the current one. They can also hire more GMs that does day and night shifts on patrol.

But
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = lower price for most silk items. but ok... if you say so.
I honestly don't see how no drop cap = benefiting joymax besides having lower revenue which will force joymax to lower the hatching rate to match that of KDMO to compensate for the loss. Or worst case scenario release the never before gacha system into the game.

i don't care if people make money. good for them, do as you wish but don't over price everything. with this drop cap, people over price merc eggs, data, everything. if there wasn't a drop cap, the prices would go down to what is reasonable for items and not be over priced. people can still make money with silk items. i didn't say silk items would go down, i said merc eggs and data would go down in price so people can stop over pricing them.

as i said, i heard botters do it for leveling. i haven't seen a botter, so how would i know? but i also mentioned if they did bot for merc eggs. if the drop cap was gone, even if they did bot for merc eggs, it wouldn't benefit them. why? because everyone would be able to get those eggs, so they wouldn't be able to over price them and make money from over pricing it.

idk how you got that i don't support joymax out of what i said. i buy silk when i can but other silk users can benefit from a cap removal because people would still buy from them. they'd still make profit off cash eggs, they'd still make profit off everything in the cash shop. they'd just stop making a ridiculous profit off of merc eggs and data like they are with their over pricing.

so in reality..sellers, free users, etc. aren't losing out because everyone still gets what they want. ffree users can farm as many eggs as they want and sellers might not be able to over price the hell off of things (which is greed) but they'd still be able to make money off of silk items like many do anyway because free users don't buy silk. but free users will benefit because the prices will go down and they'd be able to obtain things they can't now. people who sell merc eggs can still benefit, maybe not at the ridicuous rate they are now, but there's still lazy people who don't wanna farm or desperate people who will buy items from them instead of farming.

the hatch rate is already the same as KDMO, so idk where you get your facts from. they wouldn't have to lower anything, it would just be them removing the cap limit. if you wanna compare things, then KDMO doesn't have a cap limit, why do we? if our drop limit is the same as KDMO, why do we get the short end of the stick? because of botters? who if the cap limit was gone..wouldn't benefit from farming anymore?!

i don't see anything wrong in removing this cap limit. as i said..the only people who want it gone are sellers who over price the hell over things. if the cap is gone, they won't be able to over price and that would **** them off. that's greedy.

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Originally Posted by Howie Felthersnatch:

i don't care if people make money. good for them, do as you wish but don't over price everything. with this drop cap, people over price merc eggs, data, everything. if there wasn't a drop cap, the prices would go down to what is reasonable for items and not be over priced. people can still make money with silk items. i didn't say silk items would go down, i said merc eggs and data would go down in price so people can stop over pricing them.

as i said, i heard botters do it for leveling. i haven't seen a botter, so how would i know? but i also mentioned if they did bot for merc eggs. if the drop cap was gone, even if they did bot for merc eggs, it wouldn't benefit them. why? because everyone would be able to get those eggs, so they wouldn't be able to over price them and make money from over pricing it.

idk how you got that i don't support joymax out of what i said. i buy silk when i can but other silk users can benefit from a cap removal because people would still buy from them. they'd still make profit off cash eggs, they'd still make profit off everything in the cash shop. they'd just stop making a ridiculous profit off of merc eggs and data like they are with their over pricing.

so in reality..sellers, free users, etc. aren't losing out because everyone still gets what they want. ffree users can farm as many eggs as they want and sellers might not be able to over price the hell off of things (which is greed) but they'd still be able to make money off of silk items like many do anyway because free users don't buy silk. but free users will benefit because the prices will go down and they'd be able to obtain things they can't now. people who sell merc eggs can still benefit, maybe not at the ridicuous rate they are now, but there's still lazy people who don't wanna farm or desperate people who will buy items from them instead of farming.

the hatch rate is already the same as KDMO, so idk where you get your facts from. they wouldn't have to lower anything, it would just be them removing the cap limit. if you wanna compare things, then KDMO doesn't have a cap limit, why do we? if our drop limit is the same as KDMO, why do we get the short end of the stick? because of botters? who if the cap limit was gone..wouldn't benefit from farming anymore?!

i don't see anything wrong in removing this cap limit. as i said..the only people who want it gone are sellers who over price the hell over things. if the cap is gone, they won't be able to over price and that would **** them off. that's greedy.

lets just keep the bot part aside for a minute. Because its joymax's excuse for keeping cap. Although it does have a little valid reason to it. Because it would cost them money they really don't want to spend on.

Just tell me how does removing the drop cap lower the price of Mode Selector, Digi Archive, Inventory+, Warehouse+, BM items?
If you can't lower price on these items, please do not claim that

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Originally Posted by Jack Fu:
lets just keep the bot part aside for a minute. Because its joymax's excuse for keeping cap. Although it does have a little valid reason to it. Because it would cost them money they really don't want to spend on.

Just tell me how does removing the drop cap lower the price of Mode Selector, Digi Archive, Inventory+, Warehouse+, Evolutors, BM items?

i didn't say it would...i never once said it would. i only said the prices of merc eggs and data would. sorry if you took something i said the wrong way. all i said was silk users would still profit if the cap level was removed because they'd still be able to sell cash shop items. although cash shop users are greedy and it would be nice if those prices went down, and maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't.

the only thing in prices would go down is data and merc eggs you can obtain through drops. when people try to sell a gabumon egg for 30m, and get no where, they'd realize they need to lower the price to something more reasonable. people like to think they can buy low and sell high, but that wouldn't be an issue anymore.

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The lv drop limit should be removed for a simple thing: in this game you make money with the drop, if the digimons dont drop anything u cant make much money, so the only thing u have is make boooring quests that sometimes not even give money or sell a few mercenarys that no one wants to buy because of the overprice

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Originally Posted by Jack Fu:

Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer:
@Jack

loss?? Do you think the drop cap removal will be a loss? LOL

It will be good to have money and buy the cash itens from sellers.
It will be good to have our Digimons 5/5 or 4/5
It will be good to farm egg shells and rare items for making money
It will be good for Joymax, so many players will play again, and the ones who are playing now will be more excited to play

I can almost guarantee that:
With PvP having a good system and like, freezing, paralyze status in some special attacks
And with a good way to farm and get our stuff/buy someone's

DMO can reach the Top MMORPG

And with DMO in the top, players who never saw this game will say "wow, this is a top MMORPG, it should be good, let's see how it is"
And then, more and more gamers will know the game and play it
How can't this be good for Joymax?

Making the game good for ALL players isn't a loss

But your looking it from a person who doesn't spend silk, who doesn't support joymax's perspective. What about the company?
How does pleasing someone that give 0 return to the company benefit the company?

There are many great company that follow what the player saids, and have their annual profit reduced by over half of what they could have made. While their publisher that are regard by all their player base as dirty greedy SoB. Yet walks off with millions in annual profits.

Pleasing the players just doesn't work. You have to please the "right" people that contribute to the game. That contribute to the successful profit of the company.

@Taianã Szott

Yea Digitalic promised alot of things, So where is my Kudamon they promised? How long was it now that it STILL IS NOT OUT YET?!?!
And did you see their company's interview? With their employee playing their iphone at work caught on photo?

i spend silk but not for every mercenary
we need evos, digiclons, BM itens... and i can't afford to buy silk every time]

ofc joymax need money, but this is a F2P game, and KDMO hasn't drop cap
But KDMO still have profits

Drop cap will NOT make ppl stop buying silk
Every time a new digi comes out, pll buy silk for the digi, evos, digiclons, modes
ppl will need DA for the digi, sometimes expansion packs..
ppl will buy speed shoes, costumes, tanemon shop
the new tamer change item, the new digiclons, BM itens...

and don't forget about new players, and ol players coming back to the game