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05/26/2011 3:41 pm

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so of course, the left has set about demagoguing any effort to reform the bankrupting entitlements, while offering no plan of their own. they're showing paul ryan shove little old ladies off a cliff; like what a classic instance of scare mongering is that? and the whole mediscare tactic worked up in the NY-26 district, along with another classic move, of introducing a phony third party candidate to take up 9% of the proverbial slack.

this is going to be the ugliest election cycle in history. things are just bad. as has been the case in the past, the republicans are looking at solutions to the ballooning entitlement quandary our nation is in, while the democrats roll out the same tired lines about "destroying medicare" and letting old people start piling up beside the street for garbage pick up.

talk about the party of no? it's been over 750 days since the senate has passed anything. ANYTHING. they voted down the ryan budget proposal 57-40, but if this tells you anything,  they rejected obama's joke of a budget 97-0. nearly unanimous, with 3 abstaining.

it's so bad, that you now have bill clinton of all people trying to urge the democrats to DO SOMETHING! anything, other than demagogue any proposal made by the republicans.

their conversation went as follows:

"So anyway, I told them before you got here, I said I’m glad we won this race in New York," Clinton told Ryan, when the two met backstage at a forum on the national debt held by the Pete Peterson Foundation. But he added, “I hope Democrats don't use this as an excuse to do nothing.”

Ryan told Clinton he fears that now nothing will get done in Washington.

“My guess is it’s going to sink into paralysis is what’s going to happen. And you know the math. It’s just, I mean, we knew we were putting ourselves out there. You gotta start this. You gotta get out there. You gotta get this thing moving,” Ryan said.

Clinton told Ryan that if he ever wanted to talk about it, he should “give me a call.” Ryan said he would.


but this response from ryan gave me all the more respect for this man.

I asked Ryan about Republicans nervous about what their vote for his budget will hurt them in the 2012 election.

“This is not the time to go wobbly,” Ryan said. “They (Democrats) are going to run these attack ads at us regardless.  This is a time for leaders to be leaders. This is not a time for us to follow our fears, this is a time to lead because if we don’t address our countries fiscal problems we are going to have a debt crisis and the people who are going to get hurt the first and the worst are the people who need government the most, the elderly and the poor.

Ryan's attitude: Game On.


god help us. we can't keep playing this game of demagoguery. throughout recent history, every single time the republicans have tried to come up with a solution to the growing entitlement meltdown we're headed toward, the democrats come out and drum up the fear factor, and claim the republicans are trying to destroy what they are in fact trying to preserve. and what do they offer in response? more entitlement, and more government.

i am an entitlement recipient. both from medicare, and social security. and those services are vital to me. but i would much prefer some lessening of benefits, if it means avoiding a total collapse of the programs. and the longer we do nothing, the closer we get to that point. it's been building and building for decades, and every time it's the same old dog and pony show.

and the republicans are backing down from the scare tactics, and as always, acting afraid to be conservative because of the media beat downs that entails. so again, it's working. but as ryan said, if the republicans think that they can just back away from the issues, and try to be the nice guys, and not ruffle any feathers, then we're going to have four more years of obama, and probably lose ground in congress. these dumbasses need to figure out what they believe, figure out exactly what is in the policies they support, and argue for conservativism proudly. otherwise, it really is bad news for america. i don't think most understand just how badly obama has destroyed our country.

it's time to man the eff up, or get out of the way and let someone else do it. we can't keep passing the buck.
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You would think that Democrat flag bearer Clinton being on board would get the party on board. Hell I thought it would get media on board, but it is blind ideology as usual.

IMO everyone who says "I just vote along party lines regardless"  should be donkey punched.
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harry reid said that the ryan plan for medicare will (obviously) "destroy medicare" blah blah. but he also said that it will result in seniors paying $6000 more annually out of pocket. what he failed to mention is the $7800 given to low income seniors, to offset such an increase. now pardon me if i'm wrong, but aren't the democrats usually in favor of those more "fortunate" paying more? i don't get it.
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Originally Posted by Kieran Colfer:
http://www.theonion.com/video/congress-forgets-how-to-pass-a-law,18979/ :-p



the house has been passing bills, but the senate is just...worthless. 750 days...
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Could it be because the House has tried to pass some stupid bills?

H.J.Res.62 - Proposed constitutional amendment to allow states to nullify Federal law.  Undermines Congress and Supreme Court.

H.J.Res.58 - Tries to undermine US EPA and science

H.R.140 - Contradicts Sect. 1 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution

H.R.3 - Prevent government funds from going to Planned Parenthood for free or subsidized anticontraceptive distribution and other non-abortion uses.

H.R.97 - Completely undermines Clean Air Act and jeopardizes health of US citizens.

H.Res.277 - A complete waist of time, but otherwise trivial

H.R. 68 & 69 - May not be a bad idea, but the motives are dubious.

H.R.39 - Polar Bear Delisting Act

Dare I go on?
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Originally Posted by Mark Simmons:
You would think that Democrat flag bearer Clinton being on board would get the party on board. Hell I thought it would get media on board, but it is blind ideology as usual.

IMO everyone who says "I just vote along party lines regardless"  should be donkey punched.

Exactly why I'm an independant.
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05/28/2011 1:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
Could it be because the House has tried to pass some stupid bills?

H.J.Res.62 - Proposed constitutional amendment to allow states to nullify Federal law.  Undermines Congress and Supreme Court.

H.J.Res.58 - Tries to undermine US EPA and science

H.R.140 - Contradicts Sect. 1 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution

H.R.3 - Prevent government funds from going to Planned Parenthood for free or subsidized anticontraceptive distribution and other non-abortion uses.

H.R.97 - Completely undermines Clean Air Act and jeopardizes health of US citizens.

H.Res.277 - A complete waist of time, but otherwise trivial

H.R. 68 & 69 - May not be a bad idea, but the motives are dubious.

H.R.39 - Polar Bear Delisting Act

Dare I go on?



replace stupid with common sense. i mean come on man, surely you understand your descriptions are completely lopsided. dude, did they do this to you in college? i mean almost every post you've been making sounds like **** liberal indoctrination, and it worries me, because as i remember, you used to be a pretty moderate guy. perhaps a little bit of a liberal conservative, but now i think it's safe to say you've moved a little more the extreme as far as viewpoints are considered.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
Could it be because the House has tried to pass some stupid bills?

H.J.Res.62 - Proposed constitutional amendment to allow states to nullify Federal law.  Undermines Congress and Supreme Court.



Actually a stupid proposal for different reasons than what you think. The states already have the means to nullify Federal law under the 10th Amendment. It is called nullification. This bill would have undermined that amendment.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.J.Res.58 - Tries to undermine US EPA and science



Actually it would just ease up restrictions that as of right now classify steam from industrial boiler and heaters as pollution. That is basically all of it. Right now the EPA considers industrial steam as pollution. In the end it is just steam. The EPA is wrong on this issue.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.R.140 - Contradicts Sect. 1 of the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution



Actually this does not contradict any amendment. We know what the 14th Amendment was intended for by reading the deliberations of the time. It was not intended for the children of illegal aliens. It was intended for US citizenship of all former slaves (I suggest you read those deliberations). This is a bill that is needed to help stem illegal immigration which is a problem that all US citizens know is a problem.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.R.3 - Prevent government funds from going to Planned Parenthood for free or subsidized anticontraceptive distribution and other non-abortion uses.



No problem with this either. If Planned Parenthood were such a good thing, then they should have no problem existing as a Non-profit. Problem is, most on the Dems side believe in state sponsored charity which this is. Nothing more nothing less. Charity should be left to the private sector so that individual citizens can choose what charity they want to contribute to. Good charities like Wounded Warrior have no problem existing in this way. Planned Parenthood should have no problem.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.R.97 - Completely undermines Clean Air Act and jeopardizes health of US citizens.



Ok. This one needed to be shot down.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.Res.277 - A complete waist of time, but otherwise trivial



Kinda agree with you, but hey....Congress has wasted time on more trivial matters than the Indy 500

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.R. 68 & 69 - May not be a bad idea, but the motives are dubious.



Not dubious at all. I do not want any government funding of any media source. We are not Venezuela or Cuba. I would dare say that government funding of such sources is way more dubious than the de-funding of them.

Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
H.R.39 - Polar Bear Delisting Act



Considering that there are now more polar bears in existence than at any other time in history and considering the only reason they were on the list to begin with is that they may be threatened 50 years from now and considering that to have them on the list robs native tribes in Canada approx. $2 mil per year in income.......yeah, it wasn't that stupid. I'm not even gonna touch on the fact that polar bears' extinction is a evolutionary certainty since niche specialization always equals certain extinction.

Dare I go on?



Considering that only 3 of the ones you listed were either stupid or unneeded, please go on.
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