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06/14/2011 6:30 am

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now i haven't seen any media coverage of this yet, and who they think the big winners were, but going off of my own analysis, for me, herman cain scored the most points. and that kind of surprised me in a way, but kind of didn't. i wasn't going into it expecting that. on his answers, he scored a good 3-4 points higher than the rest. i also thought pawlenty did pretty well, and santorum did okay too. i thought romney was romney, newt had a few good answers, but he's dead in the water, and ron paul was ron paul. what i was somewhat surprised by, was how flat and unimpressive michelle bachman came off to me. i mean, she informed me of a lot of the measures she had taken as proof of her conservativeness, but she didn't get out and frame any answers in a unique way, and failed to stand out. she seemed the meekest of the field.

ps. i've never seen that john king guy before last night, but what a freaking ****! the candidates would be 10 seconds into their answer, and he'd be like, "mmhmm, mmhmm, mmhmm, very quickly in 30 seconds." or one time he asked pawlenty a question, and he literally said something for 5 seconds leading into the history behind the question, and right as he was transitioning to the here and now rather than the past, king was like, "right, but moving forward." like interrupting him. and he did this constantly the whole night! you're gonna give people 30 seconds to answer?

and on multiple occassions, the crowd began clapping, and he was like, "just remember that all the applause is cutting into your time with the candidates"  it just made it entirely too contentious feeling as though it were a liberal v. conservative event. and they kept having these writers from a local liberal newspaper, asking liberally pointed questions, and i just didn't like it. especially king. i was yelling at him the entire night, because as the candidates were speaking, it was "mmhmm.....mmhmm.....mmhmmm.... just a reminder to keep your answers to 30 seconds." hell, i couldn't answer any of these important questions in 30 seconds!
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Am just catching up on a few of the news reports here.  What did you think of pawlenty refusing to score points off romney with his "ObamneyCare" comment from earlier in the week? Was he pulling his punches to save them for later or was he just being too polite?
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Originally Posted by Kieran Colfer:
Am just catching up on a few of the news reports here.  What did you think of pawlenty refusing to score points off romney with his "ObamneyCare" comment from earlier in the week? Was he pulling his punches to save them for later or was he just being too polite?



i think he was just being too polite. they all were. it really seemed like reagan's 11th commandment was adhered to.
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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
now i haven't seen any media coverage of this yet, and who they think the big winners were, but going off of my own analysis, for me, herman cain scored the most points. and that kind of surprised me in a way, but kind of didn't. i wasn't going into it expecting that. on his answers, he scored a good 3-4 points higher than the rest. i also thought pawlenty did pretty well, and santorum did okay too. i thought romney was romney, newt had a few good answers, but he's dead in the water, and ron paul was ron paul. what i was somewhat surprised by, was how flat and unimpressive michelle bachman came off to me. i mean, she informed me of a lot of the measures she had taken as proof of her conservativeness, but she didn't get out and frame any answers in a unique way, and failed to stand out. she seemed the meekest of the field.

  

Wow.  No offense, but I canot imagine how you got that out of that debate.  Even the Media has since talked about how well Michelle Bachman did.  I thought she just sparkled in the debate, elevating herself to that of a Palin-like star.  Smart lady.  Bright, strong and a real patriot.  And you thought she was flat and unimpressive?  What does she need to do...put on a cape?  :lol:  I dont necessarily think shes onna win, but she did very well.

The media pundits also praised Gingrich.  (Gee...I thought he was dead in the water?)  Fact is...he is quite simply the smartest man in the field.  I knew he'd impress once he got on the stage with the others.  I'm telling ya...he is not done.  He's finally off and running and was making the rounds and impressing on the nightly talk shows last night and the morning talk shows this morning.

Romney looked very presidential.  Hes a front runner for a reason.  I like him and was satisfied with his explanation of Romney care and it appears the media is as well.  Plus, he's leading in the polls.

Herman Cain is very likeable and is strong on economics.  But his answers regarding foriegn policy indicate a bit of weakness.  He gets a blank stare at times and it tells me he doesn know as much about how to deal with Iran and the Middle east as he does about taxes and business.  And while I dont expect him to know these things...it is telling.  This is a danger signal one should take heed of.  I worry about a man who doesnt know what the right of return is.

Ron Paul acted like he was tripping on the LSD he wants to legalize.  Incoherent most of the time.  Stumbling, mumbling, arms flailing about...I was surprised he didnt go off spinning in circles and fall off the stage.  That man is dangerous.

Steve Santorum imo did a fair job and didnt really hurt himself.  Stuck to the GOP line and sad some really good things, but did not otherwise seperate himself from he group.

And Tim Pawlenty completely blew it with the question on 'Obamny Care'.  Looked like a scared deer looking in the headlights when faced with the question with a grinning Romney standing beside him.  I mean, he was outright intimidated and knew he was in trouble after those statements the other day.

I agree with the media pundits that Romney, Bachman and Gingrich were the top 3 in that group.  They did the best this time around.

Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
  ps. i've never seen that john king guy before last night, but what a freaking ****! the candidates would be 10 seconds into their answer, and he'd be like, "mmhmm, mmhmm, mmhmm, very quickly in 30 seconds." or one time he asked pawlenty a question, and he literally said something for 5 seconds leading into the history behind the question, and right as he was transitioning to the here and now rather than the past, king was like, "right, but moving forward." like interrupting him. and he did this constantly the whole night! you're gonna give people 30 seconds to answer?

and on multiple occassions, the crowd began clapping, and he was like, "just remember that all the applause is cutting into your time with the candidates"  it just made it entirely too contentious feeling as though it were a liberal v. conservative event. and they kept having these writers from a local liberal newspaper, asking liberally pointed questions, and i just didn't like it. especially king. i was yelling at him the entire night, because as the candidates were speaking, it was "mmhmm.....mmhmm.....mmhmmm.... just a reminder to keep your answers to 30 seconds." hell, i couldn't answer any of these important questions in 30 seconds!



Yep.  Everyone is laughing today about CNN's debate and especially John King.  I guess he was hurrying them up so he could ask his questions about Coke or Pepsi...or think or thick crust..  Or maybe to tell the viewes how to us their smart Phones.

Just ask the questions and then shut up John!!!  Geez.  

BTW...it will be very interesting if another Conservative like Tx gov Rick Perry gets in and begins to run. Interesting that he made a brief 10 second cameo on Glenn Beck's show yesterday.  And he's beginning to weigh in on the national issues like he is showing some interest.  He could become Mitt Romney's biggest challenge if he got into the race.  
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i know dennis. i knew how the mainstream republican establishment would step in and try to pick winners and losers, but that's just the way i saw it. i guess my main beef with bachman is that she lacked fire. passion. and that could be said of all of them.

with romney, his proposal to take the monstrosity of obamacare and apply it on a state by state basis - similar to romneycare - totally gave me a deep distrust of him. that alone ruled out my vote.
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Especially Tim Pawlenti.  Lol!  Maybe Trump will re-enter and spice things up?  Say what ya lie about the guy...he is interesting.  Can you imagine Trump winning the election?  He'd probably anger 75% of the world leaders in the first 30 days.  Lol!

I know what you're doing though.  You are hoping Sarah Palin gets in the race.  (She'd probably win too!).  
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Hm, it says Dod was the last to post, but its showing neither his nor my post.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Platt:
Hm, it says Dod was the last to post, but its showing neither his nor my post.

this thread has been gobbling up posts. looks like miles had some devoured as well.
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Evil Democrats.  
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Originally Posted by Dennis Young:
Evil Democrats.  



You calling us evil democrats now,  or you saying that evil democrats are responsible for the posts going missing?

To me it sounds more like censorship if the non-conservatives in here...... :-P
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