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Originally Posted by Kieran Colfer:
Heh, Fox New's take on this:



So many things wrong with this, is hard to know where to start..... First off, NOTW wasn't the one that was hacked, they were the ones doing the hacking - or rather, paying private detectives to do the hacking for them. On several occasions. And they lied to investigators about it. On several occasions. Talking about this in connection with any hacking atempts on the pentagon or citibank is just deliberately trying to muddy the waters.

The company knew internally for years that this was happening, and not only did they not fire the people who did it, it seems that they tried to buy off anyone who threatened to expose it and "accidentally" lost all their email records that could prove that they knew about it.  And the big issue now is the collusion between the papers and senior members of the police and government, who didn't want to "rock the boat" and played down the original investigations. One of the guys who resigned from the paper over the hacking affair back in 2007 even ended up working as communications director for David Cameron, the new british PM. So this has gone waaaay beyond the original phone hacking (which was barely hacking, more guessing the PIN of the people's voicemail).

Try this one:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-july-19-2011/horrible-bosses---fox-news-won-t-dumpster-dive

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The drama of Wendi Deng's impassioned defence of her husband, Rupert Murdoch eclipsed anything that was said with regards to phone-hacking at yesterday's parliamentary hearing.

Now the 43-year-old, who was captured on live TV as she slapped down protester Jonnie Marbles, has been hailed a heroine figure on social networking sites in her native China.

The former News Corp executive and movie producer has been described as a 'guardian angel' and 'tiger wife' in the 24 hours since the event took place.

Footage of Mrs Murdoch clouting her husband's attacker has attracted nearly 430,000 hits on Youku, China's version of YouTube, and her name was trending worldwide on Twitter within minutes.

An online poll by Chinese news site Sina found that her actions had made 46.1 per cent of respondents believe in love again, while 30 per cent said her actions had changed their attitude towards her.

China's answer to Twitter, Weibo, was also abuzz with positive comments about the mother-of-two.

One user wrote: 'She's not only a tiger mother but also his guardian angel.'

Another added that she 'should be praised for protecting her husband' and that her actions would 'improve the image of Asian women in Western eyes'.

But not all of China's 485million web users reacted so favourably.

Some postings, albeit far fewer, branded her as a gold digger and family-wrecker.

Others even suggested she had staged the incident.

But it seems that these opinions are fewer than ever before, and Mrs Murdoch's 'slap' has transformed her public image.

Blogger Jixunli wrote: 'I never used to like Deng because I thought she was too materialistic, but I like her now.'

Indeed, it seems Mrs Murdoch's split-second reactions represented  qualities that viewers of the live feed could empathise with and respect.

Top body language expert Judi James called 'the slap' Mrs Murdoch's 'Pippa Middleton moment'.

She wrote: 'Her spontaneous and aggressive defence, launching herself out of her chair to slap her husband's attacker clearly shows she is someone who likes to get stuck in.

'Even when security guards intervened, Wendi was still on the attack, she was like a rottweiler.

'This is Wendi's Pippa Middleton moment - where she upstages the father and son double act. What's even more astonishing is that she managed to still look elegant as she attacked - a true Amazonian, powerful woman.'

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:

'This is Wendi's Pippa Middleton moment - where she upstages the father and son double act. What's even more astonishing is that she managed to still look elegant as she attacked - a true Amazonian, powerful woman.'

Well, I still know which ass I'd prefer to tap, and it ain't Wendi Deng.... :-P

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so what was pippa's moment?

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
i will say, that given the corporate structure, i think it's somewhat unfair for people to try to pin this on the murdochs, or to extrapolate what happened with news of the world, and implicate all of news corp with this kind of behavior. it's not typical for parent companies to be intimately involved with the day to day operations of a subsidiary company. i mean news corp consists of more than two hundred papers and news outlets. and all of these have their own management and financial structures. murdoch's level - at the very top of the corporate structure - is so far removed from the day-in-day-out decisions and goings on of each of these entities, that it seems far-fetched to think murdoch had any foreknowledge of the voicemail hacks. and so far, i haven't seen any hard proof that this was the case.

so on that aspect of it, that's the way i see it. but then again, i don't know what all the evidence is of this alleged cover up that followed or who was involved, and how. i don't know where all those avenues lead yet. so i guess i'm just trying to be objective.

I agree.  I dont see how this should be connected to Fox News, though I hear that the NY Times is trying its best.  Bill O'Reilly has been pretty straight forward with his thoughts on this as well.  I dont understand yet why Scotland Yard has been involved int his scandal.  Didnt the top dude at the Yard have to resing because of this?

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Originally Posted by Dennis Young:

Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
i will say, that given the corporate structure, i think it's somewhat unfair for people to try to pin this on the murdochs, or to extrapolate what happened with news of the world, and implicate all of news corp with this kind of behavior. it's not typical for parent companies to be intimately involved with the day to day operations of a subsidiary company. i mean news corp consists of more than two hundred papers and news outlets. and all of these have their own management and financial structures. murdoch's level - at the very top of the corporate structure - is so far removed from the day-in-day-out decisions and goings on of each of these entities, that it seems far-fetched to think murdoch had any foreknowledge of the voicemail hacks. and so far, i haven't seen any hard proof that this was the case.

so on that aspect of it, that's the way i see it. but then again, i don't know what all the evidence is of this alleged cover up that followed or who was involved, and how. i don't know where all those avenues lead yet. so i guess i'm just trying to be objective.

I agree.  I dont see how this should be connected to Fox News, though I hear that the NY Times is trying its best.  Bill O'Reilly has been pretty straight forward with his thoughts on this as well.  I dont understand yet why Scotland Yard has been involved int his scandal.  Didnt the top dude at the Yard have to resing because of this?

the top two at the yard did. and one of the guys involved in the hacking killed himself. apparently, at the time this was all going on, the hacking was pretty widespread by british papers. nobody cared when it was happening to celebs and athletes, but then it started happening with victims of crimes, and supposedly with some of the victims of 7/7 and 9/11. and apparently, many within law enforcement were being paid to help facilitate some of this information. to me, this all wreaks of typical sleazy british tabloidism.

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The proof is out, Rupert Murdoch is really the Devil!

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has all this blown over yet?

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I havent been following this much lately.  How is this connected to David Cameron or the govt?

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Originally Posted by Dennis Young:
How is this connected to David Cameron or the govt?

it isn't