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that in the 60s and 70s, the whole counter-culture revolution was advocating the overthrow of the establishment. i mean, if you supported the respected authority, then you were an ikeman. a square. you were to be distrusted. yet now, it is the tea party advocating the same distrust of the political establishment we have now. with the power base elite. it's almost as if we've come full circle.

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you mean the pendulum effect!

hints of baby and bathwater in the first inst

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Originally Posted by Alun Hughes:
you mean the pendulum effect!

hints of baby and bathwater in the first inst

well, it is two different movements taking on two different establishments. i would say the fundamental difference, is that those involved 40-50 years ago wanted to tear down the existing order, and replace it with something else entirely (redistribution), whereas the tea party, thus far, seems more intent on rolling back the current big government establishment, and asserting that the people rule the government, not the other way around.

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:

Originally Posted by Alun Hughes:
you mean the pendulum effect!

hints of baby and bathwater in the first inst

well, it is two different movements taking on two different establishments. i would say the fundamental difference, is that those involved 40-50 years ago wanted to tear down the existing order, and replace it with something else entirely (redistribution), whereas the tea party, thus far, seems more intent on rolling back the current big government establishment, and asserting that the people rule the government, not the other way around.

As with all these things the Dylan generation caused changes that most average people never bought into.  There was a case to move forwards on race, sex/gender, class, and the protection of the weaker members of British and US society.  Unfortunately, those who were caught up in the whirlwind didn't keep an eye on the covert actiivites of the statists, communists and social anarchists.  All over the west it wasn't just the old order that was attacked but traditional moral norms, the family unit, enterprise, aspiration, achievement, rights to hold property, etc.

Many who now support the tea party movement recognise this and probably only want some better equilibrium struck.  There are very few Beck advocates but a lot of Reagan folk