| 09/19/2011 11:25 am |
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| 09/22/2011 5:08 pm |
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Regist.: 09/15/2011 Topics: 38 Posts: 37
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Eddy Hernandez: There's a chemical in them to prevent that right? But that won't stop people from using marbles. Someone broke my friend's face mask doing that 
their is no chemicals in paintballs that stops them from frezzing they dont use water cuz water is what frezzes so they use other stuff that is made out of food some paintballs say anti frezze meaning the shell wont get as britlle in the cold. I seen paintballs go though goggles cuz the feet per sec of the paintball was doing 324 and paintball mask are rated for 400 feet per sec for 10 hits but you want your marker set at 280 so the goggles dont break getting hit over and over again. Never herd or people use marbarls but their is a paint that called marbalizer |
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| 09/22/2011 9:50 pm |
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 OFFLINE | a very help full videos are by tech pb he talks about what in paintballs and stuff he is very good about that kind of stuff and very helpfull videos he dose |
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| 09/24/2011 1:54 am |
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Regist.: 09/24/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 79
 OFFLINE | Paintballs don't freeze. When you try and freeze paintballs, the little air bubble in the paintball shrinks and causes dimples to form on the paintballs. In addition to not freezing, the shell becomes very brittle. If the paintball survives the shot form the marker, the dimples will cause the paintball go curve in flight and they will not hurt any more than a regular paintball.
Now, more paintballs are becoming more water bases, lets see, what happens when water freezes. It expands, the little air bubble in the paintball is not enough to contain the expansion and the paintball will crack open. It will no longer be a ball and odds are if you try and shoot it, you will have a slushie coming out your barrel. |
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| 09/28/2011 10:42 pm |
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Regist.: 09/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 28
 OFFLINE | I was told paint fill is vegetable oil based. I know that you CAN freeze a paintball but you must do so with dry ice. ALSO, paintballs velocity limits at any legitimate field or event never exceed 300 fps. If you are shooting over that, there are many downsides. Your marker will eat more air, the paint is more likely to break due to the higher pressures required to shoot the paint at that velocity, a higher chance of hurting someone, mask failures, general marker wear and tear rate will be higher, etc. I generally never shoot over 280 because your rate of air use is lower, and you have a buffer zone in case your velocity spikes. |
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| 09/28/2011 11:04 pm |
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Regist.: 09/24/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 79
 OFFLINE | Dry ice or liquid nitrogen will freeze them but then your typical person is not going to do that as the term frozen paintball, the average person thinks of just sticking them in the freezer.
Even if you can freeze the paintball, hope the expansion in the paint won't break the shell. |
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| 09/28/2011 11:31 pm |
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Regist.: 09/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 28
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Steven Campbell: Dry ice or liquid nitrogen will freeze them but then your typical person is not going to do that as the term frozen paintball, the average person thinks of just sticking them in the freezer.
Even if you can freeze the paintball, hope the expansion in the paint won't break the shell.
Exactly. Its not very feasible to freeze them, nor would I understand why someone would want to. I could imagine it would do some damage to your marker when you try to shoot it due to the expansion, like scratching up your barrel, or not fitting in your barrel and smashing the face of your bolt. Either way, its just really not a good idea. |
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| 09/29/2011 11:34 am |
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Regist.: 09/24/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 79
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Matthew Formby:
Exactly. Its not very feasible to freeze them, nor would I understand why someone would want to. I could imagine it would do some damage to your marker when you try to shoot it due to the expansion, like scratching up your barrel, or not fitting in your barrel and smashing the face of your bolt. Either way, its just really not a good idea.
Just because I can, I picked up a few pounds of dry ice on my way home from my first work shift and am now in the process of "freezing" about 9 different kinds of paintballs from winter to summer fills, from rec to tourney paint and we will see what actually happens, if they will actually freeze at -110*. |
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| 09/29/2011 1:30 pm |
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Regist.: 09/28/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 1
 OFFLINE | My friend bought some cheap paintballs and they would break easily so he decided to freeze them and it was like if he was shooting rocks it hurt like hell.Thats why you never buy cheap paintballs.But then during the cold some people decide to buy monsterballs or toxin and they freeze fast and it hurts. |
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| 09/29/2011 1:57 pm |
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Actually Froze them, took awhile even at -110* but it finally happened. Now, they don't freeze like ice does, instead the consistency of the paint inside is more like frozen OJ than Ice. For the Shell, slight cracking but the flexibility of the shell allowed it to expand some. Due to the air pockets in most paintballs, the extreme cold caused massive dimples which if you tried to shoot them, the shell would tear right off from the propellant. If you tried to shoot these paintballs, they would ruin your barrel. Reason being, I have an old junk barrel that gets easy roll outs with all the paint I froze. With the frozen paint though, the paintballs expanded and I had to use rods to knock the frozen paintballs out of the barrel. Basically, the paintballs would probably not even make it out the barrel if you tried shooting them and would destroy the barrel in the process.
It is possible to freeze them but if you try and shoot them, joke is on you. |
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| 09/29/2011 2:00 pm |
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Regist.: 09/24/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 79
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Luis Montoya: My friend bought some cheap paintballs and they would break easily so he decided to freeze them and it was like if he was shooting rocks it hurt like hell.Thats why you never buy cheap paintballs.But then during the cold some people decide to buy monsterballs or toxin and they freeze fast and it hurts.
Cold Shells make them more brittle, paintballs won't freeze except in extreme temperatures and even then you will be lucky if you can shoot them.
Monsterballs won't freeze in a freezer, years ago I played with them, using extreme temperatures to make the shells more brittle, it still does not work.
Odds are you guys were shooting hot and that's why it hurt. |
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| 09/29/2011 7:55 pm |
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Regist.: 09/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 28
 OFFLINE | Well, odds are they are shooting wally world paint. I used a couple cases of that and man, you could shoot at a tree from 25 feet away and that paint wouldn't break. I wear bounce armor usually, but with that stuff, you don't really need it for the bounces lol. Good experiment by the way!!!! Very interesting. |
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| 09/29/2011 10:02 pm |
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Regist.: 09/24/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 79
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Matthew Formby: Well, odds are they are shooting wally world paint. I used a couple cases of that and man, you could shoot at a tree from 25 feet away and that paint wouldn't break. I wear bounce armor usually, but with that stuff, you don't really need it for the bounces lol. Good experiment by the way!!!! Very interesting.
There was a paint that wally world used to sell that I really liked, wish I could get a few more cases of it. Blue Streak, loved that paint. Reason being, all I had to do was wet the barrel to get all my trick shots. They would curve, spiral, go all over the place. I would hit people hiding behind trees.
They had a fairly thin shell so they would break on just about anything even at longer ranges. Big reason I want some again is just to send a bunch downrange where people can normally just step to the side to dodge them but these have an unpredictable paintballs, you can't dodge those as easily  . |
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| 09/29/2011 10:55 pm |
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Regist.: 09/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 2
 OFFLINE | Wow if you really want to freeze paint or shoot over 285 fps please for all of us true paintballers quite the sport. It is dangerous and in my opinion right up there with wiping a hit. Any field that i play on, even the outlaw fields would kick you out so fast. Steven get a apex or apex2. you can "curve" any ball and even with decent accurasy after you get used to it.
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