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U.S. policymakers who cite “consensus” on man-made global warming as justification for anti-emission regulations are relying upon outdated and misleading material  from the United Nations that deliberately omits the influence of natural forces, according to climate skeptics. In fact, a growing body of evidence  now points to the emergence of another cooling cycle that could persist for decades.

Dr. Don Easterbrook, a geologist and professor emeritus at Western Washington University, has presented data that shows a cooler and wetter climate is in order for the next 25 to 30 years. The Pacific Ocean has a warm temperature mode and a cool temperature mode known as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation or PDO, he said in a recent study.

The shift away from a cooling cycle in 1945 triggered several decades of warming that ended in 1998, according to the study. However, the PDO has now reverted back over to a cool mode, Easterbrook has concluded. This data raises questions about the reliability of models used by the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), Easterbrook has said. This U.N. prediction of global temperatures 1° F warmer by 2011 and 2° F by 2038  appear to be very much off track.

Meanwhile, some scientists are convinced earth could experience more than just cooling over the next few decades. Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics with the National Autonomous University of Mexico sees evidence that points to the onset of a “little ice age” in about 10 years that could last for much of the 21st Century.

All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases.

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So we're looking at that film "The Day After Tomorrow" so?

Read an article last week that blamed the excessive ice & snow in Europe over the holidays on global warming as well........

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well here's my thing on the whole global warming/climate change thing. we can't really even have a civilized conversation about it as a society, due to all the demagoguery surrounding the issue. descending views have been suppressed, and in a most unscientific manner, the conclusion was predetermined.

but in truth, this isn't even about science anymore, nor is it about saving the planet. it's become just another way of controlling people. the eco-nazi-esque way it's been gone about is proof of that.

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:

but in truth, this isn't even about science anymore, nor is it about saving the planet. it's become just another way of controlling people. the eco-nazi-esque way it's been gone about is proof of that.

I think you are right on this.

You know, as I was raised on a farm and was part of groups like the Scouts and 4H and all that, I personally try to practice conservation and want a clean ecology for our wildlife and planet.  Farmers and Forestry especially understand the value of this.

Further...I do feel like the summers here are much hotter than they were when I was a kid.  (Either that, or I was much tougher in the 60's).  Lol!  So I was inclined to think that pollution did impact our ecology and probably did contribute somewhat to Global Warming.

However those emails that were leaked a year or so ago (indicating that the figures scientists were giving us were fabricated for political reasons) really put this whole global warming thing in doubt.

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just thought i'd resurrect this thread, since we've been discussing this again.