| 12/27/2011 10:36 am |
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Regist.: 10/18/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 4
 OFFLINE | Hi, my name is Taianã, nice to meet you. I play at Leviamon server, my tamer's called "BigTortoise" and I'm the actual Outragers guild master. And my mother linguage isn't english, so sorry for any error.
The reason of this topic is discuss with everyone who play in Leviamon about the overprice in some itens like Evoluters, Mode Selectors and even some Digimon Cash Eggs. (I don't know Lucemon's situation about this.)
Before I start, this isn't a "hate topic" like "low the price noobs" or something like this. I want a free dialogue with both sides the cash itens merchants and the costumers; and with this reach a reasonable price for everyone, or at last most people possible.
Well, you see, everyone knows how this started: Agumon and Veemon Veedra Line got released and the things got upside down. Evos passed to cost double or even triple that are costing a day earlier, same for mode selectors, inventory, cash eggs got 20%-30% overpriced.
For the side of the sellers, are many reasons for this: high demand, inflation, KDMO price, anyone can make 1T a day (that isn't true, since only 10% of the server can do it, and they don't pay a high price like this only they make M easily), easy money with something that everyone will need... I think the worst excuse is KDMO price, since silk is cheaper in the whole world, exept South Korea.
For the side of the costumers you have the options: pay it, risk be scammed at a low price or pay silks. But have people quitting the game because this since no one wants wait 2-3 week to unlock mega. (Not touching the "Snow Village question"...)
In the end (except for the scammed exemple), is Joymax that will lucre.
If you're asking what I think, as a merchant (yes, I like to farm to sell things), I think the actual price is like a shoot in your our feet. That pass a false idea about lucre - yes you'll profit more in a unit, but you'll make much more time to sell it, and time is money. Is better sell something at a reasonable price with a great range of possible costumers to sell something at a price that only a fell will have the courage to pay. For example: If I buy a Tane Shop, I want lucre with it as much is possible in the time limit of it. If something don't sell quickly, I'm losing money, REAL money. So I can't jeopardy with a overprice. For me the evo price have to be 150M each, it will float at 100-200M the price in the shops, and everybody will buy without complain.
But enough with my opinion, is time for YOUR opinion. Say here what you think about it. If everyone discuss it I think we can make a deal with both sides and eveyone will lucre with it. |
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| 12/27/2011 11:06 am |
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Regist.: 12/26/2011 Topics: 1 Posts: 6
 OFFLINE | KDMO GDMO
Evo 100M-150M / Evo 220M-400M each
Mode 150M-250M / Mode 400M-600M each
Archive 250M-350M / Archive 650M-850M
ZzzZzzZ...
Not grace to play that way many people can not buy Evos etc. .. and will stop playing (at least to put Cash)
but this is not the fault of the players Joymax but because the price of the cash shop has not changed ...
and this advance in prices caused by children (papa's son) who can not wait and buy at high prices ... give the price ends up on. |
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| 12/27/2011 11:15 am |
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Regist.: 12/26/2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 53
 OFFLINE | The cash itens are REALLY overpriced.
Everyone needs evos, everyone wants to train some mercenary digimon. But not everyone can buy silk for every mercenary digimon we have.
Yes, we always have events with Evoluters, and this is great, but we need to work more for it, and in this current event, it's really hard to get 9 or 11 evos (at least for me).
Evolutors are an important in the game, and spend 250m or more for only one is madness. I don't want to offend anyone but, it really is madness. I remember when we had evos for 100~150m. Everybody could buy with no problem.
I'm not a cash merchant, and if i was, i would put a fair price for the itens.
For those who cannot buy silk every time and with low mony in-game, it's nearly impossible to have a full evolved mercenary digimon. Think of the customers who coyld buy evos for 100~150m with no problem, and stopped buying now that the price is too high. The demand is high, but the prices are so high that a part of the evo customers stopped buying 'til the prices get normal again. I saw in this morning people shouting that they're selling evos for 150m. Their stock runned out in 2 minutes.
It will be great for the customers and the merchants, to have evos for 100~150m again. Much more people will buy, in much more less time.
The same for Mode Selectors, everyone wants to ride a mega, huh? xD
But 400m for just one is too much. 250m would be ideal for it. Like i said before, much more people will buy, in much more less time.
The Digiclon prices are perfect, and fair. D for 15m, and C for 20~25m, ideal for its demand, and importance.
Expansion itens are really high too. Inventory is 10m more than the normal, Warehouse too, and the DA price is ridiculous. 800~900m for one expansion? What is this lol. I remember when it was 200~300m. Nobody wants only 3~4 digimon, so the demand is high, but again, the prices are too high even for this demand. And again, that phrase: Much more people will buy, in much more less time...
That's my message for all the merchants: Low these absurd prices, much more people will buy, in much less time (:
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| 12/27/2011 11:57 am |
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Regist.: 10/19/2011 Topics: 16 Posts: 176
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer: That's my message for all the merchants: Low these absurd prices, much more people will buy, in much less time (:
I wish most of the players online would get this message. Apparently they don't, instead they care about the item selling. Even if it takes days, as long as they know they will get the money, they will keep selling them at insane prices.
I've only seen very rarely someone sell at low prices stuff like evos, and they sell in minutes or in a day. (The former if he/she shouts the prices) |
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| 12/27/2011 12:15 pm |
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Regist.: 10/22/2011 Topics: 5 Posts: 142
 OFFLINE | haha you should pop over to the lucemon server for a bit. our prices are ridiculous. 250 is about the cheapest you can find an evo 35-40 for inventory now, warehouse expansion is going for 65+ when I came from levi it was going for 30. Even worse is the digicore prices now with the new update they are being sold for 25m ea. so that evo that cost 50 cores is now over 1T and the kamemon mystery egg is a laughable 7.5T and even worse people are buying them crazy fast.
The only prices that have started to stabilize in lucemon are data prices. now everything save for bird and beast data goes for less than 1m. Everything else is WAY over priced. I've got 1T just sitting in the bank and unable to buy anything I want with it |
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| 12/27/2011 12:16 pm |
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Regist.: 11/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 7
 OFFLINE | Instead of crying over the prices, why dont u sell at 150m? Nobody can controll the market. Its like in real life. Unpredicatble. Learn a thing or 2 about economy. If there is high demand on a item, and few sellers. Guess what? You can earn more. Its common sence. Anyways they are using their real life money to sell stuff. So if they want to sell a evolutor for 250m. Please do it.
You can always collect 50 digicores for a evolutor.
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| 12/27/2011 12:28 pm |
 Cool Senior Member

Regist.: 12/26/2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 53
 OFFLINE | Originally Posted by Christopher Sanchez:
Originally Posted by Derpson Tamer: That's my message for all the merchants: Low these absurd prices, much more people will buy, in much less time (:
I wish most of the players online would get this message. Apparently they don't, instead they care about the item selling. Even if it takes days, as long as they know they will get the money, they will keep selling them at insane prices.
I've only seen very rarely someone sell at low prices stuff like evos, and they sell in minutes or in a day. (The former if he/she shouts the prices)
Let's make an in-game campaign in the megaphone xD
Gass Rewrew, so you think it's FAIR to sell evos for 250m+?
Like I said before, i would sell for a fair price if i had evos
And it's true that nobody can control the market, but it's really better for the evo merchants to sell them at a fair price. Like I said, and I quote, "much more people will buy in much more less time". It's better to them. So what's better? Sell 10 evos for 250m in 1 week, or sell 10 for 150m in 2 days or less? Time = money
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| 12/27/2011 2:38 pm |
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Regist.: 10/18/2011 Topics: 4 Posts: 4
 OFFLINE | @Gass Rewrew: The only problem is... The Silk price still the same. If Joymax have changed the prices to more high, everyone can understand. But if the primal source still at same price as ever the high prices are greed from people who can be a "Cash Item Merchant". (That is another detail, isn't everyone can be a merchant like this, maybe the prices are consequence of people who live in countries that dolar isn't at a "fair" price and want the whole world pay for it.)
The most problem is principaly the KDMO players who think the same prices will work here too. And worst of all is the same players don't have guts pay the same prices that they sell because they knows that was overpriced and they "e-money" can't be wasted with greedy people.
And another detail is in KDMO the only ones who sell things like evos at 400M are the non-korean players, and they reason there because the cash price is very higher.
But at other side, even with silk cheaper, isn't everyone who can put 100-500 silks/P. silks in a week. And when they buy, is for self use.
And about digicores well, at Leviamon have people selling then at 50M EA. So 50 Digicores goes at... 2,5T. So I don't ever need to finish...
@Nick Bennett: A friend of mine said one time that in Lucemon, 2 guilds praticaly moviments more money than the entire Leviamon server. If that is true, probably the control the prices and others people just follow.
Probably some Leviamon Guilds are trying to do the same thing. Or worst, to maintain their guilds at the top since the most easy way to up a guild in the ranking is lv up a digimon, and this is easy with all digievolutions unlocked.
And one thing that I forgot to say in my earlier post: another bad thing thats high prices lure are hackers and scammers (to not say the bots...). Is a sad true that but have people who want have things in the most easy way possible. And if that way is steal money/cash/Ms or use programs to modify the game to their benefict, they will do it without any remorse.
To finish, be a merchant with cash item or a game item, isn't simple "I buy it, so you have to pay my price, or go home!". Is a cicle that involves evryone helping everyone to get what they want. "I sell merc to buy a digimon 4/5. The guy who selled to me will use the money for evos for his digimons. The evo guy will buy mode selectors to buy he new mega digimon. The mode guy will buy datas to try a 5/5 digimon. The data guy will use the money to buy mercs digi and come to my shop."
Is this cicle that makes the game alive. If this cicle stop at some point, soon or later the game will "die". |
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| 12/27/2011 5:33 pm |
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Regist.: 10/17/2011 Topics: 3 Posts: 115
 OFFLINE | The prices are insane |
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| 12/27/2011 5:38 pm |
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Regist.: 12/05/2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 19
 OFFLINE | I suggest that Joymax implement an auction into the game.
Now to the actual topic...
As I P.Silk buyer and re-seller... I think 200-250M for an evoluter is a fair price.
After all, I am spending 12 of my own Dollars to get them.
And believe it or not, 12 dollars does add up quickly.
Data - I think this needs to be priced UNDER 1M.
I never sell over 700B, regardless of type.
I say this... Farmable isn't inflatable.
If you don't want to farm, and you'd rather buy, DO NOT buy data for more than 1M.
Buy purchasing overpriced things you give the idea that its alright.
Cash Eggs - I always start at 1.2T for 4/5s and 6T for 5/5s and then Auction it off through the use of megaphones and then finish through a "trade" transaction.
I realize that this isn't the most organized response (Rant mode)Soooo
I suggest we all come together and creat a "Buyer AND Sellers" guide.
To start, we can all submit a list of notable items sold by players and then suggest prices and find a decent average.
At that point, we can find a way to get this "guide" out to other players. It will catch on eventually.
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| 12/27/2011 5:39 pm |
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Regist.: 12/05/2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 19
 OFFLINE | Aslo, before you post pricing opinions... Everyone should go do some quick research.
Find the Lowest AND highest price for the items you suggest a price for.
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| 12/27/2011 5:53 pm |
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Regist.: 12/05/2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 19
 OFFLINE | Also, can you all please contribute to this post.
https://apps.facebook.com/fbulletin/by_implementing_an_auction_house_the_following_will_be_provided_to_player-22984.html
Lets not spam it and create an argument  |
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| 12/27/2011 6:39 pm |
 Cool Senior Member

Regist.: 10/19/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 68
 OFFLINE | I believe it the lv drop restriction and the high price of vitamins are the huge factors in high price. It can be hard to get money for some people if not most, of course some may disagree but I can understand some don't like the idea of removing the lv restriction because some high lv will hog the low lv digimon area.
Most people got bits from either broken eggs and quests, cash user from selling cash items. The game lost balance now and if they can lower the vitamins price like before it can help reduce the price of some items. I believe people want bits to train or saving up for something. |
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| 12/27/2011 7:26 pm |
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Regist.: 11/22/2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 1
 OFFLINE | Beware for digicore scammer..I almost fooled by them
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| 12/27/2011 8:20 pm |
 Cool Senior Member

Regist.: 10/19/2011 Topics: 1 Posts: 60
 OFFLINE | Cash items still as high as the water fall, no matter how long we wait the price will never change. Only Cash Eggs and Chips since they drop normally so no one will care much.
But for Vitamin price that is insane, because we need Vitamin more often at high lvl, and we can barely make enough to get more either from Low class eggs or npc
Drop lvl also the cause of player quitting the game, when ever there new eggs in cash shop people will over price them and demand for the price they want. So F2P players will instantly gone. Because they can't earn much like P2W players, no bonus exp, no bonus stats only the items they can find in game to support them.
Even worse peoples say that drop should stay the same, and that just what happen when people don't think to the future. If the drop lvl remove, high lvl will farm low lvl for eggs, but they won't be long only few still last. Because you know what it feel to be bored, so they might go lvling and farm at their lvl instead. If the 10 lvl below don't give exp to their beloved partners
Guess I got my anger carry on with it, anyway normal price for Evo, Archive and other storage items is nearly from 150M up, so they good to sell but not worth to buy |
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