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http://www.brotherpete.com/introduction_to_islam.htm

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Comeon Dod. You know that no matter what happens, Muslims are the victim. We have even changed history to reflect the Crusaders as the bad guys. We have already forgotten that it was Muslim incursion into Christian lands that prompted the Crusades. It will be the same after all of this is settled out. The pseudo-intellectuals will always find excuses for why it is the fault of the west and not the fault of those who are truly to blame. I guess it is easier to blame ourselves rather than to admit that evil really exists in the world.

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yeah, i'm still trying to figure out why the left is really trying to embrace islam. i mean, the two fundamentally do not mix. sure, for now it's convenient to use islam with which to oppose the west, but without doubt, there would be a time where the two would have to face off.

my own personal views on islam are as follows:

first, i have to make a distinction between islam the religion, and muslim people. i DO feel that, like all people, you're average, everyday muslim just wants to do his or her own thing in peace. however, the religion they follow is no more a message of peace than mein kampf was a message of peace.

if there ever was a religion that's anti-christian - that is, the opposite of the teachings of christ - then islam is that religion. put bluntly, i believe muhammed was a false prophet, and use this religion of his to amass a huge empire. to me - contrary to the teachings of jesus - islam is a religion of hypocrisy and the excusing of immoral acts. it's okay to sleep with an 11 year old, so long as you marry her. it's okay to ****, kill, and maim, so long as those you are raping, killing, and maiming are not muslims. or if a female is a sex slave, THEN it's okay to have extra-marital sex.

unlike christ, who was very enlightened, and buddha-esque, muhammed was nothing but a warmongering dictator. in fact, muhammed never even came up with anything original, instead preferring to rewrite judeo-christendom, and history itself. and the followers of muhammed, many unknowningly, still perpetuate these lies today as gospel. for instance, the believe that mecca's history goes all the way back to ishmael, and even adam, when in fact the city is nor more than 1500-1600 years old. or the claim that muhammed even descended from ishmael, when in fact he forbade that anyone attempt to fill in his genealogy.

basically, i view islam to be one massive scam, that justifies a wide range of immorality.

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Originally Posted by Dødherre Mørktre:
unlike christ, who was very enlightened, and buddha-esque, muhammed was nothing but a warmongering dictator. in fact, muhammed never even came up with anything original, instead preferring to rewrite judeo-christendom, and history itself. and the followers of muhammed, many unknowningly, still perpetuate these lies today as gospel. for instance, the believe that mecca's history goes all the way back to ishmael, and even adam, when in fact the city is nor more than 1500-1600 years old. or the claim that muhammed even descended from ishmael, when in fact he forbade that anyone attempt to fill in his genealogy.

basically, i view islam to be one massive scam, that justifies a wide range of immorality.

I'm astounded!  ...that I'm not the only one in here that thinks this.    (You sure this isnt bait to lure me out of my lurking?)  Lol!

Islam is not only a scam...if Satan ever wanted to create his own religion, Islam is the one he might create.  It is a wolf in sheep's clothing.  And if you know very little about it, its easy to be deceived into believing that its a religion of peace (as the media likes to say).

Muhammed made many claims about Christianity and Jesus.  But Muhammad was illiterate.  He couldnt read or write and so he got his info from people who had recited to him "other" gospels as well as those from the Apocrypha  (books not recognized by the Protestant Churches).  ITs one reason why so many Muslims are confused about the concept of the Trinity, because the Apocrypha teaches that the Trinity is actually 3 individuals.

Muhammad claimed to have recieved the book of Islam from q spirit who choked him 3 times.  He kept telling the spirit he couldnt write, so the spirit recited the info to him.

Back to why the media embraces this vile faith and condemns Christianity at nearly every opportunity:

Remember who controls the media.  Mostly elitist intellectuals that were taught by secular humanist progressives in the universities.  These people hate Christianity.  They poisoned the minds of our youth and those graduates are now in positions of power in the media (and politics).

This was all foretold.

Remember we are told we will be persecuted for our beliefs:
1 Peter 4:12-13, 16

I see political correctness (which is like saying 'legalized bullying', the rise of secular humanism, the increasing hatred toward both Jews and christians, the sexualization of young girls in film and the fashion industry, the sexual imagery and violence on film, as all being connected to one degree or another.  We have become desensitized to violence and have become accustom to seeing things and hearing things on tv and on film that we would most likely not have seen 30 years ago.

i'm not claiming its all some vast conspiracy by a shadow group, but I do think its all connected.  The radicals of the 60s led the youth of that era into some really bad things.  Before, people usually (but not always), did what their parents told them, had respect for their elders and in general were much more civil than today.  There were occasional rebels, but for the most part i think I'm right on this.  Most teens of that era would be appalled at what we see on film and in magazines today.

But then the mid 60s came and those kids went off to college.  Many dropped out.  The war caused many to simply disappear in order to avoid the draft.  But college campuses were loaded with radicals that told kids that the faith and values of their parents is ridiculous and a sham.  People began to experiment with all sorts of things and ideas.  Eastern Mysticism, psychedelic drugs, and radical politics led many away from the traditional Christian family values they were brought up on.  Eventually they began to feel free to ridicule people of faith.  They use all sorts of excuses as to why they do this, but I think I'm on the right track.

Now those kids are grown...grandparents now.  Many have entered the realm of business and politics.  They run corporations now.  They control vast media empires and dominate our govt.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Young:

And if you know very little about it, its easy to be deceived into believing that its a religion of peace (as the media likes to say).

this is a very poignant point for me. see, following 9/11 - when islam really came to the forefront - i was ignorant, and pretty much bought into the notion that most of islam was peaceful, while only a small minority of radicals were the problem. but the more i learned about islam itself, and its teachings, the more i came to understand that it is the message itself that is the problem; that helps justify what the radicals are doing. in fact, the radicals are more closely in line with the teachings and life of muhammed than anyone else. all the so-called moderate muslims just aren't as adherent.

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Exactly!  Imo, if you really adhere to the tenets of Islam, you will be more likely to do things like Al Quaida and Hamas and Hezbollah than the more moderate Muslims.  Its why i say Islam is an evil religion.  not most Muslims, but the doctrine of Islam itself.

But the media (NY Times, etc) ignore this.  They know it to be true but will never admit it.

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Originally Posted by Dennis Young:
Exactly!  Imo, if you really adhere to the tenets of Islam, you will be more likely to do things like Al Quaida and Hamas and Hezbollah than the more moderate Muslims.  Its why i say Islam is an evil religion.  not most Muslims, but the doctrine of Islam itself.

But the media (NY Times, etc) ignore this.  They know it to be true but will never admit it.

That is because the media, as well as most individuals, do not realize that the bulk of the Muslim world is held hostage by a religion that was forced upon them. They know they cannot say or do anything about it because even though they are the majority, a small amount of ruthless, bloodthirsty, well armed individuals can always hold the masses hostage.

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I think they know it...they just dont care.

How often have we heard of atrocities being committed by a foreign dictator on the people, but if the US gets involved, we are criticized for doing so...even on humanitarian grounds?  Sadaam Hussian gassed the Kurds and imprisoned his people, had **** rooms and murdered many of his own people.  But there were many in the media that did not want us to get involved under any circumstances.

We are told of many horrible conditions in N. Korea, how thousands are imprisoned and the people are eating grass over there because they are starving.  But would the media be behind the US using our military to force out the dictator?  Doubtful.

And the media knows full well what the conditions are like in N. Korea.

the media also knows full well how Christians and people of other faiths are being rounded up and persecuted by Muslims in parts of africa and SE Asia.  But they dont want us to intervene.

They know what is going on...they just dont care.

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same with women, homosexuals, and religious minorities under islam. the very groups that the left espouses to fight for, while they're still sympathetic to muslims.