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Do you feel that a clinical diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder should disqualify a person from managerial or supervisory positions when such positions imply a great many subordinates?

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I don't think so.

Many executives I've known have had a mental disorder of some sort and many have done really well.

The key is to manage your life and care for it, just like everybody else has to do with their lives.

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I prefer working for a crazy boss

Note: who the above statement was generated from may void its relevance and reliability so remember to take anything he says with a grain of salt that was thrown over the shoulder of a superstitious individual that then landed in a bowl of soup of a person with high cholesterol that forgot to wash his hands after using the public restroom that then left a great tip for the waitress yet she didn’t want his dirty money because he vomited on the floor after chocking on a bread stick and the bus boy was sick that day and her lame boring boss made her clean it up.

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Ditto what Scott said.

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Hasn't disqualified me.    

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Originally Posted by Scott Terry:
I don't think so.

Many executives I've known have had a mental disorder of some sort and many have done really well.

The key is to manage your life and care for it, just like everybody else has to do with their lives.

I agree!

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Originally Posted by Teri McLacy:
Ditto what Scott said.

Just what I was thinking!

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Originally Posted by Jann Morrison Kostka:

Originally Posted by Teri McLacy:
Ditto what Scott said.

Just what I was thinking!

Great minds, (((Jann)))

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Of course there are a thousand shades of any abnormal psychology trait. It is what makes us different.

Ever work for a Narcissist?
Ever love a histrionic? It's a cousin of BP.

I have. Both of them burned my soul.

But I'm married to an anorexic, I wouldn't trade her for anyone.

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Originally Posted by Marty Thethree:
Ever work for a Narcissist?

YES! It's crippled my ability to tolerate markedly severe character disorder. And positions of power are typically what attract these monsters of humanity and they're typically good at getting into them

But character disorder and the various other personality disorders are quite different than mental disorders which is what Bipolar is classified as.

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Originally Posted by McHailin Ishness:

Originally Posted by Marty Thethree:
Ever work for a Narcissist?

YES! It's crippled my ability to tolerate markedly severe character disorder. And positions of power are typically what attract these monsters of humanity and they're typically good at getting into them

But character disorder and the various other personality disorders are quite different than mental disorders which is what Bipolar is classified as.

That was an unfinished thought...

Generally speaking, most people we think of as Narcissistic don't completely meet the DSM's criteria for actual diagnosis. Yet so many people demonstrate many of the traits and create an awful lot of dysfunction wherever they go, but they're not quite the real deal. In most cases where people don't really meet DSM criteria, much of their disorder is the result of toxic socialization; as a child, I can only hold them just so accountable, but in adults it becomes another matter of immaturity which I feel they should be held accountable for. For a person who's truly Narcissistic, however, especially if they're leaning towards the psychopathic end of narcissistic behavior, they're practically no hope for them unless by the powers of miracle they're convinced to alter their authentic behavior to be more sociable, and this almost never truly happens. (spots, leopards)

However, for so many of the known mental disorders, which is something that doesn't automatically make a person 'bad' like a markedly severe character disorder does, many people do take responsibility for their clinically diagnosed and treated disorders and I feel it's an atrocity to exercise bias against them, especially when their social behaviors have proven to be 'sociable'. I dunno if this changes anything if we're discussing circumstances involving the job continuity of a neurosurgeon. But most jobs we Americans work don't even come close to the level of a neurosurgeon, so generally speaking, this bias is unacceptable to me.

(PS, in case my thoughts have been poorly conveyed, my complaining, venting, bitching, or whatever it is I'm doing here isn't directed at anyone in this forum)

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Originally Posted by McHailin Ishness:
But character disorder and the various other personality disorders are quite different than mental disorders which is what Bipolar is classified as.

Absolutely true.  I was married to a borderline (crossing my heart and swearing).

To compare a PD to bipolar is like comparing a water pistol to a grenade launcher.

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I see no reason for someone who is bipolar to be disqualified for a managerial position as long as they have it under control and qualified in every other ways required. People with mental disorders can hold positions of authority as well as just normal* working positions. It is the stigma of those with a "mental disorder" that prevents otherwise wonderful people from getting a job or even respect on the job. I know from experience.

I have seen where someone from HR finds out, from insurance paperwork, that a worker is being treated for a mental disorder then turns around and talks about it in a full lunch room. I was that worker's supervisor, I reported the breach of privacy to the head of HR, that was the 3rd time she was reported of violation of the workers privacy and gossiping about other workers. The first 2 she got warnings, this time she was fired. On a side note I already knew the worker was being treated because I and the head of HR helped him get the help and as long as he could do his job safely for himself and others it was no one else's business. When I left that job that worker was promoted to my position.


* for lack of a better word at this moment.