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A NEW EDEN...THE NEED TO CONTROL WATER
05/15/2011 11:39 am

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Many years ago I had an idea that would quite literally turn the USA into an Eden, but I never mentioned it to anyone, being certain that the EPA would squash the idea for the sake of some grasshopper in Utah. Now this nation teeters on the edge of oblivion, and the only way America will ever regain her footing is to seriously curtail the authority of government agencies, such as the EPA, that have far exceeded their original purpose. Our bureaucrats are not important! Our nation is!

Every year we feed the world and every year our ability to do so becomes more strained. Every year billions of dollars of flood damage occur along major rivers with lives lost.
We are losing our wetlands and our underground aquifers are dropping to lower levels. If we continue on the same course eventually they will dry up; farming will be greatly diminished, or end, and some desert cities will have to be abandoned. In addition to the normal strain on our water tables we encounter periodic droughts, reminding us yet again that we are not in control.

Now, due to politics, we have new problems. From this year onward jobs will be lost due to Obama's progressive anti America policies. Nothing can be done as long as he is in office, but the planning for this can start now. When a real President with a vision takes office we can face adversity and win.

There is a common solution to all of these problems, and it would be tantamount to the space race: That solution is interconnected pipelines, and pumping stations, spanning the nation and moving water from where it is doing serious damage to where it will do the most good.

The world has quite enough water, but mankind does not, and the answer is to move it to where it will benefit Amrica before it does enormous damage and then flows into the ocean where it is lost. With America in control of her water, unoccupied valleys can become massive lakes, creating new resting grounds for migrating birds, fishing, boating and lakeside communities and one of the most important side effects is that the seeping ground water would replenishing our dying aquifers. Creating such a system of pipelines and pumps would in turn create millions of new jobs. And they would not be "Make work" jobs. The result of such an effort would be totally productive. New farmlands, new wetlands, towns would spring up along the way at major pumping intersections.

Katrina would have just been a nuisance if New Orleans had been pumped dry before the hurricane hit. Every year we know when the Ohio, the Missouri, and the Mississippi are going to flood creating massive damage, and the answer is to turn on the pumps beforehand and send much of the existing river water to distant man made lakes before the flood stage hits.

The greatest obstacle the world faces is to many people and not enough food and water for all of them. Such conditions lead to starvation, disease, and war. This concept would save lives and property damage, create new living space for humanity, and assure future generations the right to plentiful water, the most valuable commodity on Earth.

And it would work everywhere in the world, and for it to succeed, the EPA must be brought under control. This is a massive engineering feat but by ignoring the bureaucrats and doing what must be done, the USA could have a functioning system within ten years, and it could be done world wide before the end of the century. If we combine our technology with common sense, Eden is indeed possible.

John F. Kennedy inspired a generation with his vision of conquering space and landing on the Moon. It is time for a new President to once again inspire a new generation that can rebuild this nation with a common dream. The way to get this done is by heeding the words of Ronald Reagan. "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."


Ferrell Andrews May 14 at 6:29am Reply • Report
Heard dat... I pitched your idea at my wife last night and she, like me, agree that would be a great solution for the water situation.... I mean look at Vegas for example, they pump the water all the way from Lake Mead, quite a little trek.



Danny Jeffrey May 14 at 10:39am
Ferrell, this can be done and the rewards are staggering. Why no one has never considered it is beyond me. Look at Australia. They just had a deadly flood. That water could have been pumped to a man made lake in the outback. The Sahara could turn into farm land from the Nile and Congo floods every year. In Russia, the steppes can be the greatest food source in the world, using the flood waters of the Volga. The deed can be done. The biggest obstacle is bureaucrats. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Like I said, I thought of this years ago and this is the first time I have ever mentioned it, and you are the first to agree with my conclusions.



David Poole May 14 at 1:11pm Reply • Report
Flood waters are typically heavily contaminated and are unusable.
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Danny Jeffrey May 14 at 1:27pm
I don't know what they are called but in the bottom of the troughs that gold miners use are vertical obstructions. Their purpose is to let gold and anything else heavier than water settle out while the water passes on. These drop outs, for lack of a better name, would be built into the bottom of every section of pipeline, cleaned out during the dry season and made ready for next year. After travelling a few hundred miles the water would be essentially clean and whatever is left would be cleaned by the fish, snails and algae in the waiting lakes. The water seepage under the lakes would be filtered as has always been done by the earth before it reaches the aquifers.



Riffles are the what the miners use.



Ferrell Andrews May 14 at 3:31pm Reply • Report
Yes David, true, but the key would be to pump the water away before it inundated the cities or for that matter before they even left their banks... I think it's a workable, albeit lofty, plan. Main obstacles are what Danny said, bureaucrats and NIMBYs



Danny Jeffrey May 14 at 3:48pm
Christopher Columbus had a lofty plan and so did Neil Armstrong and look what they accomplished. To reach a goal one mush hitch the proverbial wagon to a star, and then built reality beneath it.



Gale Wisdom May 14 at 9:28pm Reply • Report
I'll volunteer to help empty the recyclables...
Around here, the waters behind the levees are just clean runoff from the upstream. The waters don't get contaminated until they exceed 'flood stage.' Thats when the water gets out and into septic system and other sources of cantamination. I haven't yet read Dannys' idea, but guessing the gist of it from reading a few posts, the pump stations could be easily enough located to transfer the excess water to the pipelines (there will still be lots of mud & silt in it, but not so many nasties...)



Danny Jeffrey May 14 at 10:02pm
Read it Gale. We know when a flood is coming. Start pumping beforehand and never have a flood. That is the beauty of the plan, Prevent damage by moving the water to where you need it before flood stage.



David Poole May 14 at 11:08pm Reply • Report
Building such a system would be massive. We are talking about the Alaskan Oil Pipeline per COUNTY in EACH state.



Danny Jeffrey May 15 at 12:23am
This will take a lot of pipeline, no doubt, but no where near that big. It would require a series of pumping stations along the rivers that always flood and from those stations a pipeline leading to the lakes that refills the aquifers. One per state or less would in all likelihood suffice. Picture one valley thirty or forty miles long. That would be a huge lake and it would refresh the aquifers for surrounding states. It would be an enormous undertaking; probably the biggest in the history of mankind, but look at the rewards. Never again would we worry about drought. No more floods, or the damage and death resulting from floods. This would truly be living in "Harmony with nature"
I have been doing an enormous amount of research into the oncoming food crisis. The world's population has quite simply outgrown human races's ability to feed itself. This past winter so many crops were damaged around the world that the problem is going to be enormous this year. Saudi Arabia used to grow almost enough wheat for their people. They are not going to grow wheat anymore, due to water shortages. That will add to our shortages and increase our food costs.
We are facing an enormous problem of not enough food and water for humanity and there is a group with a far different solution to the problem. Mine is best.




THE CASSANDRA REPORT: AS THE WORLD FACES STARVATION
http://protect-life.blogspot.com/2011/05/as-world-faces-starvation.html#more



Ferrell Andrews May 15 at 4:17am Reply • Report
I would say as a 'test subject' use the Mississippi River and it's head waters, the Ohio and Greater Miami Rivers for starters... That seems to be the rivers that are always flooding. If it works there then move to the next and the next... I think with good ol' american will and strength it can be done.... leave the NIMBYs and bureaucrats home or it'll never get done.... can you say Trade Centers or Trade Center Memorials?



David Poole May 15 at 9:53am Reply • Report
And what environmentalist is going to let you create a man-made lake?



Danny Jeffrey May 15 at 10:24am
With today's President...None. The EPA and many others were started for a good reason and became bloated, abusive, and out of control. A strong leader, another Reagan, could weaken, disable, or destroy them. Look at the way that Obama is using executive orders to abuse us. An honest President could pass an executive order returning the EPA to its original makeup, with a ten year review to see if they need more control.
We have created lakes. Lake Meade is a good example, and it has been beneficial, but that was done before petty political appointees gained so much power. They gained it and it can be taken away.
David, one of the biggest problems with the USA is we have grown to think of what we cannot do. If we are to survive, those chains must be broken and then we can think of what can be accomplished.
I love having a Devil's advocate around...You make me think.


  
Reply by paul collings 17 hours ago
Theres a lot of money to be made from water. I can't find the link but if you go to  www. 'blue gold world waterwars', (if you havn't already seen it), is well worth a look
Have been following the flooding in mississippi, and it just proves something has to be done.



Reply by Danny Jeffrey 16 hours ago
Like I mentioned in the essay, I thought of this years ago and never considered anyone would be able to do anything with the EPA in control. It is obvious that we have to deal with an out of control government soon and the EPA is necessary, but they have become a bloated power grabbing and abusive part of the bureaucracy and they must be dealt with ASAP. I have just published this to various location and what feed back I am getting seems to indicate that others believe this to have merit. I will check out your link Thanks.



Reply by Pat McCrann 11 hours ago
Funny you should say that Danny. I've always wondered myself why they don't have a system like that for piping water round the country, and even an inter-continental system. Why not send flood water to drought stricken countries? If they can build oil pipelines across countries then surely they can do it with water? It would also provide work for poor countries as well as water.
I also wonder why they don't produce solar energy in hot deserts that can be used elsewhere? And why, in countries like Africa where you have massive sun energy and contaminated water, why they don't use the sun for distilling water? They could probably build massive distilling plants and make a distilling industry out of it.



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The distillation I never thought of but it would work. The problem is that the people there don't have the knowledge or resources and the rest of the world doesn't care. The Sahara is moving further south every year, and the Nile and Congo floods, properly utilized, could start moving it north again. Thus far I have only had one critic about this idea and quite honestly I love a Devil's advocate. They make you think. He does not see the whole scenario as he mentioned flood waters are contaminated and impure. That is not a problem. The plan is to pump the rivers to lower levels so there is no flood. He envisioned a huge pipeline running through every county and that is not the plan. Multiple pumping stations along a river would begin pumping long before a flood stage begins, pumping clean river water. to fill an unoccupied valley thirty or forty miles long. This enormous lake would refill our aquifers that are running dangerously low.One lake like this would fill the aquifer that provides well water to one, two, maybe three states.
And it would kill some fish, and that is the problem with the EPA. If I kill a few dozen fish to provide water for a million people I think that I have done a good days work, and there are methods of protecting the fish anyway.
I find that many people will not read more than eight or ten paragraphs and then get bored so I have begun a new method of getting to them. With a short blog they can read the highlights and know what is happening or they can follow the links for details. Such as the one linked to this. This concept came to me after I wrote a HUGE essay that I know many will not read, but it carried the information and conclusions from about two months of constant research, and it is such a big story that it could not be put into a small format.
http://protect-life.blogspot.com/2011/05/as-world-faces-starvation....



Reply by paul collings 8 hours ago
It looks on the surface  that the problems of the world are more than anyone can solve. Or are willing to solve because the cure would be so painful theres not the political will to try.
If you try to build a new resevoiur the enviromentalists get up in arms, try and drill for more oil, the same thing happens, more nroads the same, infact if you try to do anything that affects the enviroment, greenpeace, friends of the earth and save our tadpoles are sure to get mad.
I think institutions  like the EPA a set up to stop any big projects being allowed that would stop water and food shortages, after all, if everyone has enough food and water, all that happens is they have more children who will then want food and water, and so the shortages would begin again. It fits well with the NWO ideas.



Reply by Kinana 3 hours ago
Danny thanks for this idea.  So much is possible if societies were better equiped to deal with problems and think long term.  But is that really possible with a 4 year term presidency, 6 year term senator, and a 2 year term house of rep.?  Society needs a mind set of generations and a unity of purpose among people that simply does not exist at the moment.  But let's work for it!



Reply by Pat McCrann 3 hours ago
Perhaps you could set up a people's think tank Danny for ideas like this.



Reply by Danny Jeffrey 1 hour ago
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That would be easy. I already have developed a forum that is turning into a massive data bank. Opening another room would be no trouble. I'll develop it later today. This is the link to the forum that I have already developed. It does ask for permissions the first time someone enters. That will then give them the ability to invite others.



Reply by Alan Lake 2 hours ago
This is a big problem in Australia, in fact its getting to be a life or death issue in some areas.  So an Australian friend told me despondently that China is building not one but two massive pipelines to route water from the North to the South (I think).  And of course, Australia is constructing ... none!



Reply by Danny Jeffrey 36 minutes ago
Thank you for this news. I did not know that anyone was attempting such a project but I will do some follow up research on China's efforts. As you said Australia is constructing none...Nor are we and the Mississippi is once again showing us who is boss. With this concept Australia could water the Outback and Americans could once again believe in a better future.
Research time!  



Reply by Danny Jeffrey 5 minutes ago
China is indeed doing this with three pipelines
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7864390.stm



It would appear that I am not the only one to think of this. Now I KNOW it can be done, and we have more water and less people than China.


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05/15/2011 6:04 pm

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Here in Ohio we have several man-made lakes. Of course the little towns that sit at the bottom of these lakes are still causing hard feelings years later! Right there is part of the down side. Where do we put these reservoir type lakes so that we aren't taking land that has belonged to families for over a century? Eminent domain is a dirty word around here right now. Of course because we have this system of reservoirs and dams Ohio, with all of her rivers, has not flooded half as bad as some other places that don't have the same systems.
Ferrel, it isn't the Great Miami that is causing problems. Since the Great Flood in 1927 the levee's and dams have worked pretty well. She is running high, but we expect that in the spring anyway. The river doing all the damage and rushing into the Ohio right now is the Little Miami, and since it was named a "National Scenic River" there isn't much that can be done without a huge fight with the tree-huggers. Dayton has 5 rivers that intersect and run into the Great Miami, and then just east of here we have the little Miami.
If there is land available that hasn't been completely ruined by manufacturing, and if it isn't being used for farmland, we could do something like this and it would help. Caesars Creek is one of the man-made reservoirs just south of here, it's banks are inundated at the moment, but when it is at normal levels it provides recreational facilities for most of South Western Ohio. Just don't mention the farm houses that lie on the bottom, people are still pretty heated up about that!
We have to do something, and that Missouri situation should never have happened. All of that farmland is shot for years to come, and we must do something. Truthfully, I'm not horribly worried about New Orleans, you build your city in a bowl next to a huge River and a gulf and you're just asking for it!
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I must play a bit of an advocate, too, but I also hope to offer something.
The power requirements to pump these quantities of water is staggering! Some non-traditional thought must be applied! Like using the power of the rivers own current to turn the pumps.
In some locations, where the topography allows it, have pipelines that actually pierce the levees, then water can run right in, and be relocated into valleys or reservoirs, for storage. It's the piping it to new locations that will require much thought!
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...and wasn't there something that came out about deliberate mismanagement of water along the Missouri and Mississippi rivers caused the flooding? Snow pack studies are done regularly, as that affects the skiing/tourist business. The volume of melt was known, but ignored by the beaureucrats because of some desired 'water pulse' to simulate normal spring flooding.... something like that?

the concept of flood control is a farce, anyway. beaureucrats tax us to build levees, declare flood control, foolish people build in areas that normally flood, the when a flood occurs, we get taxed again to make everything right.... It's a viscious circle of mismanagement!
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